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1987 trans am, viper 5002

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 23, 2024 at 3:52 PM


Topic: 1987 trans am, viper 5002

Posted By: jetmech_jt8
Subject: 1987 trans am, viper 5002
Date Posted: March 31, 2010 at 8:38 AM

Im about to install this in a 1987 Trans Am.  Do I need a relay to operate the factory trunk release?  My old Alpine was doing so by tieing into the factory trunk release switch wiring.  Also is it ok to run 3 L.E.D's.  An finally would there be an issue in using two sirens?  I have an extra one and figured I would install it inside the car.



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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 31, 2010 at 9:31 AM
If the release switch sends out a neg pulse then no problem, ideally you should test this and tell us, you well however need a relay for the second siren.




Posted By: jetmech_jt8
Date Posted: April 30, 2010 at 9:32 AM
This viper manual is horrible.  How do I wire up the retained accessory power wire?




Posted By: Mark Mizenko
Date Posted: April 30, 2010 at 12:15 PM

Org/Blk to 85 on the relay, +12 to 86 and 30, 87 to your Acc wire.  Thats it.

The manual is'nt horrible.  It lists the Org/Blk as the (-) RAP output.





Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: May 01, 2010 at 7:01 PM
you want to add rap or you want to do rap shutdown?

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 02, 2010 at 2:34 AM
Personally I hate RAP, give me old school soul.




Posted By: jetmech_jt8
Date Posted: May 02, 2010 at 4:47 PM
Ok I've got everything working.  I just have one question as to it's operation.  The Alarm is installed in a 1987 Trans Am GTA, so it's not the most advanced car when it comes to on board electronics.  The RAP appears to be working aside from the way it turns off.  I understand that it's supposed to turn off when a Door is opened and closed or the Alarm is armed.  Mine turns off as soon as the Dome lights turn off.  If I shut the car the lights come on and RAP is maintained for the 30 seconds that the lights are on, then as the lights turn off so does the RAP.  However if I open a door in that 30 second period, then the RAP stays powered until I shut the door, which also kills the domes thus turning off the RAP.  Is this working properly for this car?  These cars did not have a seperate door switch.  They only use the plunger switch in the Jam which is what the door sense is tied nto.  As mentioned, all triggers and everything else on the Alarm work.




Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: May 04, 2010 at 4:44 PM
Once your door trigger is connected to the dome light feed this is how it will work, IMO it isn't really a problem, unless you make it one, however if you would like it to fucnction as intended you would have to use an instant door feed input to the alarm!

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Posted By: jetmech_jt8
Date Posted: May 04, 2010 at 4:51 PM
So this I assume would require the addition of a seperate door switch.




Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: May 04, 2010 at 4:54 PM

Do you have a door ajar indicator in the instrument cluster? Door switches should not be necessary, there is work involved however! posted_image



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Posted By: jetmech_jt8
Date Posted: May 04, 2010 at 5:56 PM
No I do not.  The only indication that a door is open in this car is the Dome light staying on.  Theres one plunger switch in each A' pillar




Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: May 04, 2010 at 7:50 PM

An instant trigger has to be present you may have to locate them individually and diode them together!



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Posted By: Mark Mizenko
Date Posted: May 04, 2010 at 9:07 PM
Get to the pinswitch, cut the wire, put a diode inline and wire your door rigger between the pin and the diode.  You'll have to do that on the other door too.




Posted By: jetmech_jt8
Date Posted: May 06, 2010 at 7:05 PM
Door trigger?  Are you meaning an additional switch that I have to install?




Posted By: Mark Mizenko
Date Posted: May 06, 2010 at 9:33 PM
No, the plunger thats already on the door.




Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: May 07, 2010 at 8:37 PM
Actually you shouldn't have to interrupt the wire fron the plunger, the diode will only be needed to isolate the seperate triggers!

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COMMIT YOUR WAY TO JEHOVAH AND HE WILL ACT IN YOUR BEHALF. PSALMS 37:5




Posted By: Mark Mizenko
Date Posted: May 07, 2010 at 11:26 PM
Where do you have the door trigger for the 5002 hooked up?  At the underdashlight?  You'll need to get that off there.





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