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Topic: missing ignition/accessory wire

Posted By: dohabee
Subject: missing ignition/accessory wire
Date Posted: April 22, 2010 at 6:15 PM

I am installing a mars-33 remote start and alarm on my 2004 dodge ram 1500. it is a v-6 with no chip in the key and no power locks or windows.

it starts fine with the remote but the abs light is lit(not sure if this is actually a problem).

the radio and blower work but not the a/c compressor.

It seems to me like have failed to energize 1 accessory wire and 1 ignition wire.

I have energized the pink/white and pink/green ignition wires and the blue and the pink / YELLOW accessory wires.

What do I need to do to get the compressor to work and the abs light to go out?



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Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: April 22, 2010 at 7:08 PM
Energize the remaining ignition and accesory wires! You said it yourself!

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Posted By: dohabee
Date Posted: April 22, 2010 at 8:17 PM
I can't seem to find which wire it is that I need. The advice i got from the wiring diagrams only listed the 4 wires that I used




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: April 23, 2010 at 7:33 AM

This advice is from Bulldog Security:

On some Full Size Trucks with Climate Control it may be necessary to connect
(3) extra Accessory wires (PINK / YELLOW) and the DARK BLUE Accessory #1 to turn
on the A/C Compressor.

12 VOLT CONSTANT                             RED (+)                                IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS 
 STARTER                                               YELLOW (+)                          IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS 
 STARTER 2                                           N/A  
 IGNITION 1                                            PINK/WHITE (+)                     IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
 IGNITION 2                                            PINK/LIGHT GREEN (+)       IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS 
 IGNITION 3  N/A    
 ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 1   DARK BLUE (+)                   IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS 
 



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Posted By: dohabee
Date Posted: April 23, 2010 at 1:10 PM
kreg357 wrote:

This advice is from Bulldog Security:

On some Full Size Trucks with Climate Control it may be necessary to connect
(3) extra Accessory wires (PINK / YELLOW) and the DARK BLUE Accessory #1 to turn
on the A/C Compressor.

12 VOLT CONSTANT              RED (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS 
 STARTER                 YELLOW (+)                          IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS 
 STARTER 2             N/A  
 IGNITION 1              PINK/WHITE (+)      IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
 IGNITION 2              PINK/LIGHT GREEN (+)       IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS 
 IGNITION 3  N/A     
 ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 1   DARK BLUE (+)    IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS 
 







That seems like the same wires I have already connected.

You mention there are three accessory wires but i think those are what I currently have energized.

What color is accessory number 3?





Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: April 23, 2010 at 4:55 PM

Not sure.  Bulldogs info reads like there are 3 Pink / YELLOW wires at the ignition harness but AudioVox only lists one and says it takes care of the ABS light during remote start. 

Probably the best way is to DMM check each wire in the Ignition Switch Harness and see what it does at each position of the switch ( Off, ACC, ON, Start ), then wire the R/S the same.



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Soldering is fun!




Posted By: dohabee
Date Posted: April 23, 2010 at 6:39 PM
Ok there were 3 pink / YELLOW, 2 smaller and one larger wires.

I was already using one of the smaller ones and when I energized the other small pink / YELLOW ABS light went out and the a/c compressor worked, WooHoo!

Sheesh, I am glad to be done with this install, although I didn't diode isolate some things so maybe I will have to fix it later.

Thanks




Posted By: rjkboyle
Date Posted: November 23, 2010 at 7:10 PM
Sorry to bump this thread. But just had a question. My remote start only has one Acc (+) output, so i could use this for the Blue accessory wire.

I have a wire that is 200mA (-) Second Accessory Output when the remote start has started the vehicle, how would i wire a relay to energize these three pink/white wires. Do the other three wires have to be isolated?

Thanks




Posted By: zerepdivad
Date Posted: November 25, 2010 at 1:27 AM
rjkboyle wrote:

Sorry to bump this thread. But just had a question. My remote start only has one Acc (+) output, so i could use this for the Blue accessory wire.

I have a wire that is 200mA (-) Second Accessory Output when the remote start has started the vehicle, how would i wire a relay to energize these three pink/white wires. Do the other three wires have to be isolated?

Thanks


85- neg second accessory output
86+87- 12 volts
30- your accessory wire you still need energized.

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A DMM is a beautiful thing.

MECP Advanced Installer Certified.




Posted By: rjkboyle
Date Posted: November 25, 2010 at 1:37 PM
Ok thanks. If there multiple wires for the sec acc but they are the same color can they be connected to the relay together or do I need to do each individually




Posted By: zerepdivad
Date Posted: November 25, 2010 at 1:50 PM
i relay them individually.

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A DMM is a beautiful thing.

MECP Advanced Installer Certified.




Posted By: rjkboyle
Date Posted: November 25, 2010 at 2:22 PM
ok thanks, is there much danger to not do it that way? just because i dont know how many relays i have, and if its not a big deal i rather not go back out into the snow aha




Posted By: zerepdivad
Date Posted: November 25, 2010 at 2:38 PM
Well you don't want to connect 2 circuits that are meant to be isolated. Does the vehicle start now and your blower come on? if so you should be ok not energizing EVERY accessory wire. Of course best practice with remote start systems is to energize EVERYTHING that gets energized by the key. So really it's your call on that one.

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A DMM is a beautiful thing.

MECP Advanced Installer Certified.




Posted By: rjkboyle
Date Posted: November 25, 2010 at 2:53 PM
Yeah ok, well havent started yet, so not to sure, i try the two larger wires, that it shows in the wiring diagram for the truck, and if the A/C and stuff doesnt work il experiment with the other smaller accessory wires.

Thanks for all your help.





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