viper 5902 remote start problem
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Topic: viper 5902 remote start problem
Posted By: lee0092
Subject: viper 5902 remote start problem
Date Posted: May 21, 2010 at 9:56 AM
I am finally almost completed with the alarm installation on my 88 honda crx.
Everything appears to operate correctly except the starter kill function. I have cut the starter wire as described and connected the starter output wire to H3/4 (violet wire(car side of starter kill)) and H3/5 (green wire(starter input key side of starter kill)). When I try to start the car with the key, all Honda dash functions work properly, but the starter does not crank. If I disconnect the wires and just hook up the starter wires, the car starts normally. Also when I try to remote start with the hd control, it states "remote start not available"...
Can anyone provide assistance to troubleshoot this problem?
Thanks
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Posted By: lee0092
Date Posted: May 21, 2010 at 10:07 AM
Here is how I've wired the H3 Harness... h3/1 - ignition h3/2 - constant 12v h3/3 - accessory h3/4 - starter output (car side of starter kill) h3/5 - starter input (key side of starter kill) h3/6 - constant 12v h3/7 - constant 12v h3/8 - not used h3/9 - constant 12v h3/10 - n/a
Posted By: lee0092
Date Posted: May 21, 2010 at 10:13 AM
Some more info.. I've tested all the wires with a circuit tester pen and all wires work, except the violet H3/4. Even when I attempt to start the car with key there is no power coming from that wire. I have checked the H3/5 Green starter input wire and there is power as I try to start the car. Just no power coming from H3/4 to the starter...???... Could it be the brain that is the problem???
Posted By: dasbogie
Date Posted: May 21, 2010 at 11:45 AM
H3/7 should not get 12v it goes to the 2nd access or ignition if applicable to your vehicle. h3/2 powers it and your diagram states you have it to 12v. is the alarmed armed when you try to start the car with the key or disarmed?
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Posted By: compay
Date Posted: May 21, 2010 at 12:08 PM
H3/7 should not have a constant 12volt try connection with the H3/1. H3/9 can also be the input to the starter
Posted By: lee0092
Date Posted: May 22, 2010 at 6:00 PM
dasbogie wrote:
H3/7 should not get 12v it goes to the 2nd access or ignition if applicable to your vehicle. h3/2 powers it and your diagram states you have it to 12v. is the alarmed armed when you try to start the car with the key or disarmed?
The alarm is not armed when I try to start the car with the key. compay wrote:
H3/7 should not have a constant 12volt try connection with the H3/1. H3/9 can also be the input to the starter
Okay... I have now connected H3/7 with H3/1 and I'm now getting "Invalide Pulse Count" on the remote when I try to remote start... Also I don't see why H3/9 should be connected to the starter input?? Though I did test it out and there is no results... Overall it's still the same, the Violet (Starter Output) still have no power... ??? Help???
Posted By: lee0092
Date Posted: May 23, 2010 at 6:34 PM
help please!? 
Posted By: tegguy
Date Posted: May 23, 2010 at 8:44 PM
Can you list the color of the wires you tapped into? Should be h3/1 (Pink) - BLACK / YELLOW h3/2 (RED / white) - constant 12v h3/3 (orange) - Yellow h3/4(violet) - BLACK/ White Car Side h3/5 (green)- Black White Key Side h3/6 (red)- constant 12v h3/7 (pink/white) - constant 12v h3/8 (pink/black)- not used h3/9 (RED / black)- constant 12v h3/10 - n/a
Posted By: tegguy
Date Posted: May 23, 2010 at 8:46 PM
I wrote the H3/7 wrong use it as previously stated
Posted By: tegguy
Date Posted: May 23, 2010 at 8:50 PM
Also Orange H3/3 is not used
Posted By: tegguy
Date Posted: May 23, 2010 at 8:52 PM
Finally H3/9 Should goto your yellow wire on ignition harness. Sorry for so many sperates posts
Posted By: tegguy
Date Posted: May 23, 2010 at 9:05 PM
You should not need to use H3/7 since you do not have 2 ignitions
Posted By: lee0092
Date Posted: May 23, 2010 at 10:25 PM
tegguy wrote:
Can you list the color of the wires you tapped into?
This is what I currently have the H3 harness wired to... h3/1 (Pink) - BLACK / YELLOW h3/2 (RED / white) - constant 12v h3/3 (orange) - Yellow h3/4(violet) - BLACK/ White Car Side h3/5 (green)- Black White Key Side h3/6 (red)- constant 12v h3/7 (pink/white) - BLACK / YELLOW h3/8 (pink/black)- not used h3/9 (RED / black)- constant 12v h3/10 - n/a
Posted By: tegguy
Date Posted: May 23, 2010 at 10:30 PM
H3/3 Do not use H3/7 Do not use H3/9 to Yellow
Posted By: lee0092
Date Posted: May 23, 2010 at 10:32 PM
tegguy wrote:
Finally H3/9 Should goto your yellow wire on ignition harness.
I have H3/3 to the Yellow Accessory wire. Seems to be right since all the research so far states to wire H3/3 to Yellow and probably I'll wire H3/9 to Accessory 2 (Blue/White).
Posted By: tegguy
Date Posted: May 23, 2010 at 10:33 PM
I should note i'm not a professional installer but am installing a 5901 in a 92 integra with help from a professional installer and i'm going off the notes he and I put together for my car
Posted By: tegguy
Date Posted: May 23, 2010 at 10:37 PM
lee0092 wrote:
tegguy wrote:
Finally H3/9 Should goto your yellow wire on ignition harness.
I have H3/3 to the Yellow Accessory wire. Seems to be right since all the research so far states to wire H3/3 to Yellow and probably I'll wire H3/9 to Accessory 2 (Blue/White).
You have a blue/white? Sorry this wasn't listed on the 88 CRX wiring diagram. Blue/white is normally ignition two (at least in my car) and should goto pink/white.
Posted By: lee0092
Date Posted: May 23, 2010 at 10:39 PM
tegguy wrote:
H3/3 Do not use H3/7 Do not use H3/9 to Yellow
Thanks for the info, I'll wire that up tomorrow and see how it goes...
Posted By: lee0092
Date Posted: May 23, 2010 at 10:45 PM
tegguy wrote:
[QUOTE=lee0092][QUOTE=tegguy]
You have a blue/white? Sorry this wasn't listed on the 88 CRX wiring diagram. Blue/white is normally ignition two (at least in my car) and should goto pink/white.
Well from the installation I do have a blue/white, I know the crx don't have a second ignition, and as stated by the crx wiring diagram I got from best buy and websites the blue/white is the second accessory. But here is the wiring info for 88-91 crx;
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| PART |
COLOR |
LOCATION |
| 12 VOLT CONSTANT |
WHITE/ BLACK (+) |
IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS |
| STARTER |
BLACK/ WHITE (+) |
IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS |
| STARTER 2 |
N/A |
|
| IGNITION 1 |
BLACK / YELLOW (+) |
IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS |
| IGNITION 2 |
N/A |
|
| IGNITION 3 |
N/A |
|
| ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 1 |
YELLOW (+) |
IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS |
| ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 2 |
BLUE/WHITE (+) |
IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS |
| KEYSENSE |
N/A |
|
| PARKING LIGHTS ( - ) |
N/A |
|
| PARKING LIGHTS ( + ) |
RED / GREEN (+) |
@ HEADLIGHT SWITCH |
| POWER LOCK |
ADD ACTUATORS |
TO BOTH DOORS, See DIAGRAM |
| POWER UNLOCK |
ADD ACTUATORS |
TO BOTH DOORS, See DIAGRAM |
| DOOR TRIGGER |
GREEN/ RED (-) |
IN DRIVERS KICK PANEL |
| DOMELIGHT SUPERVISION |
USE DOOR TRIGGER, Requires Part #R30-H Relay |
|
| TRUNK RELEASE |
N/A |
|
| SLIDING POWER DOOR |
N/A |
|
| HORN |
BLUE/RED (-) |
@ STEERING COLUMN HARNESS |
| TACH |
BLUE |
@ 2-PIN PLUG NEAR DISTRIBUTOR |
| WAIT TO START LIGHT |
N/A |
|
| BRAKE |
GREEN / WHITE (+) |
@ SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL |
| FACTORY ALARM DISARM |
N/A |
|
| ANTI-THEFT |
N/A |
| |
Posted By: lee0092
Date Posted: May 23, 2010 at 10:51 PM
tegguy wrote:
I should note i'm not a professional installer but am installing a 5901 in a 92 integra with help from a professional installer and i'm going off the notes he and I put together for my car
Cool... Any help and info is better then none at all. I just hope all goes well tomorrow after I rewire it... Thanks again for the info...
Posted By: tegguy
Date Posted: May 23, 2010 at 10:53 PM
Ok you should not need to use the orange wire off the remote start. Hook pink/white to Yellow. I don't know what goes to blue/white.
Posted By: lee0092
Date Posted: May 24, 2010 at 9:25 AM
tegguy wrote:
Ok you should not need to use the orange wire off the remote start. Hook pink/white to Yellow. I don't know what goes to blue/white.
So is it H3/9 to yellow? or H3/7 to yellow? because re-reading the post you said to put... tegguy wrote:
Finally H3/9 Should goto your yellow wire on ignition harness.
???
Posted By: tegguy
Date Posted: May 24, 2010 at 9:54 AM
Sorry ok H3/7 to Blue/Whie ( you will have to program this output to be ignition 2) H3/9 to Yellow
Posted By: lee0092
Date Posted: May 24, 2010 at 10:35 AM
Still no luck... I think the brain is bad... because H3/4 Violet (car side of starter kill) is not sending or getting any power when I try to key start the car. Isn't H3/5 supposed to send a pulse to H3/4 to start the car when cranked with the key???
Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: May 24, 2010 at 2:14 PM
If you're not getting voltage on the starter side of the relay whilst starting with the key, and you have it connected to the starter wire at both ends then yes something is wrong with the relays in the brain!
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Posted By: lee0092
Date Posted: May 24, 2010 at 3:41 PM
t&t tech wrote:
If you're not getting voltage on the starter side of the relay whilst starting with the key, and you have it connected to the starter wire at both ends then yes something is wrong with the relays in the brain!
Yep... just as I thought... Sending it back tomorrow for a new one... Thanks again..
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