2010 Ford Transit Alarm/Remote Start

Has anybody done a Ford Transit 2010 yet?  I have gotten conflicting wiring diags but i have found that the front two doors are inverted ground (door open is open circuit/door closed goes to ground) and the same with the back door but the side cargo doors are the standard door open goes to ground. The problem is I can't find unlock wire (lock is BLACK/ lt green @ GEM module)and a diagram to combine floating door pin circuits together without feedback. Also bypass kit for PATS module. HELP!

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thetopinstaller

Haven't done one yet but, here is info from Bulldog:  

PART                       COLOR                          LOCATION  DIAGRAM
 12 VOLT CONSTANT           RED (+) 20AMP             @ IGNITION SWITCH (BLACK, 7-PIN PLUG) PIN 4    
 STARTER                             GRAY/BLACK (+)            @ IGNITION SWITCH (BLACK, 7-PIN PLUG) PIN7    
 STARTER 2                         N/A     
 IGNITION 1                      GREEN/ YELLOW (+)          @ IGNITION SWITCH (BLACK, 7-PIN PLUG) PIN 1  
 IGNITION 2                        N/A      
 IGNITION 3                        N/A       
 ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 1    YELLOW (+)             @ IGNITION SWITCH (BLACK, 7-PIN PLUG) PIN 6    
 ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 2     N/A       
 KEYSENSE                                       N/A       
 PARKING LIGHTS ( - )                   N/A       
 PARKING LIGHTS ( + )          ORANGE / YELLOW (+)         @ HEADLIGHT SWITCH, (BLACK 16-PIN PLUG) PIN 13    
 POWER LOCK                        BLACK/ ORANGE (-) TYPE B   in DRIVERS KICK PANEL, (GREEN 20-Pin Plug) Pin 12 or GEM,
                                                      (GREEN 23-Pin Plug) Pin 10, Note #1    
 POWER UNLOCK                 BLACK/ GREEN (-) TYPE B    in DRIVERS KICK PANEL, Harness to Rear of Vehicle or GEM,
                                                      (GRAY 23-Pin Plug) Pin 11, Note #1    
 LOCK MOTOR WIRE            YELLOW/BLACK (+) (5-wire type)   in DRIVERS KICK PANEL, GREEN 20-Pin Plug) Pin 1
                                                       or GEM, (BLUE 23-Pin Plug) Pin 1, Note #1    
 DOOR TRIGGER                   BLACK / YELLOW (-)          in DRIVERS KICK PANEL, (WHITE 20-Pin Plug) Pin 18 or
                                                       GEM, (GRAY 23-Pin Plug) Pin 18, Note #1    
 DOMELIGHT SUPERVISION      BLACK/ BLUE (-)            @ GEM, (GRAY 23-Pin Plug) Pin 21, Note #1    
 TRUNK RELEASE                   WHITE/ GREEN (+) (Rear Door Unlock)   @ GEM, (GREEN 23-Pin Plug) Pin 5, Note #1    
 SLIDING POWER                    WHITE/ BLACK (5-WIRE TYPE) (SLIDING Door UNLOCK Motor wire)   in DRIVERS KICK PANEL,
                                                      (WHITE 20-Pin Plug) Pin 20 or GEM, (BLUE 23-Pin Plug) Pin 4, Note #1    
 HORN                                        BLACK/ BLUE (-)            @ HORN SWITCH or GEM. (BROWN 23-Pin Plug) Pin 15, Note #1    
 TACH                                        Any wire NOT BLUE (AC)    @ Any FUEL INJECTOR    
 WAIT TO START LIGHT        N/A       
 BRAKE                                    GREEN / WHITE or GREEN/ RED (+) TEST with IGNITION ON!   @ BRAKE SWITCH or in DRIVERS KICK
                                                                                                                                                                 PANEL, (WHITE 20-Pin Plug) Pin 8    
 FACTORY ALARM DISARM            N/A       
 ANTI-THEFT  NO INFO AT THIS TIME !!       
 
 Note #1: the GEM (Generic Electronic Module) is located under the Drivers Dash, behind the
DASH FUSE BOX.

Do you need individual door triggers?  Bulldog lists one door trigger, BLACK / YELLOW (-) at the GEM module.

As far as a bypass, DEI, Fortin, and iDatalink all list modules for this van.  Looks like standard PATS3, not 80 bit.

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Soldering is fun!

This seems to be slightly different to the UK version which we've had fro about 5-6 years:-
GEM box:
Lock BLACK/ orange -
Unlock front doors BLACK/ green -
Unlock rear test for motor wire, yellow? and use relay interrupt (5 wire)
deadlock, again find separate motor wire and again relay interrupt (5 wire) for 4 seconds. All door contact trigger, BLACK/ blue (one of three) in driver's floor loom (might be passenger for yours). This is ground when opened, hood switch is N/C. If the door triggers have changed to N/c as other Fords (and it's UK big brother), use DEI DTIMazda part.
Nor sure what bypass XK04? but ign should be GREEN/ YELLOW, starter grey/black and acc yellow.
I've just looked at directwire for this, all my colours are correct except for the door triggers, but they are still normal, i.e. go neg when door is opened, all at GEM box. P.S. pm me with your email address and I'll send the directwire back to you.
PPS That GEM box is a PITA to get at on UK versions, I snatch the whole board out!

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Sorry Kreg, you replied as I was writing this, my version is from memory, directwire gives separate door triggers, never had this on the UK version. Our fuse box and separate Gem boxes are on left hand side behind glove box, your version might be the combined fuse and GEM box which we have on the Focus and Mondeo. Not sure where yours is made, I believe ours comes from Turkey or the UK.

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You can use this as a cross referance for the wiring and location.

https://www.wiringinstructions.com/v2/wiresprint.asp?recnum=10077&printsubmit=PRINT

Info is from OMEGA.

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Ted
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On the UK models which are all light vans,the BLACK/ blue suffices as "all door Trigger" as well as dome supervision, although I don't think it's required if unlocking the doors brings on the dome light, also to deadlock, use an aux to come on with the alarm for a 4 second timed output, the feed this to a relay as "5 wire" to the yellow wire from the GEM box. The yellow is the deadlock motor wire.

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OK guys, with some help I figured out the problem! I could not get the lock wires to work- because there are two (2) BLACK/ orange wires in the same plug and you cant read any pin numbers unless you have a microscope. Also you can use the BLACK/ blue for door trigger but that is the dome light wire which has a delay and other issues. I wanted to go directly to the door pins for better results. Thanks for all responses and help!!

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thetopinstaller

The answer to the first part, that's why I underline my posts to comment on testing, the answer to your second comment is you were given or offered the answers about door triggers, so please if you are going to ask questions at least use the answers!
I've been doing these Connects for about 4 years and I worked it all out myself.

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my boss just got me this vehicle ( 2010 transit connect) and i have to install the remote start - security system hopefully you can answer a quick question. i'm a little confused with what i am reading in regards to the door locks. i see that you can access the door locks at the GEM module and they look like you just need to pulse them with a negative for the lock and unlock...........them i'm reading what looks like that might only control the 2 front doors and not the sliders and the rear door and that you have to go into the ds kick to hook up the reversing current relays. can you shead any light on this? other than that it looks like a pretty straight forward install.

thanks for your help!

Joe

The answer is still the same, TEST!

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Zbo2 I owe you an explanation if not an apology for our some what heated PM exchanges!
As far as I can work out the BLACK/ green and BLACK/ orange wires will give you lock and unlock via a neg pulse from your alarm-R/S.
In the European version, unlock will only do the front two doors therefore we have to "5 wire" the side/rear as a second unlock which is how the factory fob does it anyway for cargo area security.
That's why Kreg's list gives you extra locking options.
My comment about testing was related to the fact that
A) many of the wires have the same colours but with different functions.
B) It's almost impossible to read the pin numbers.
All the wiring you're referring to is at the GEM box.


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howie ll wrote:

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Zbo2 I owe you an explanation if not an apology for our some what heated PM exchanges!
As far as I can work out the BLACK/ green and BLACK/ orange wires will give you lock and unlock via a neg pulse from your alarm-R/S.
In the European version, unlock will only do the front two doors therefore we have to "5 wire" the side/rear as a second unlock which is how the factory fob does it anyway for cargo area security.
That's why Kreg's list gives you extra locking options.
My comment about testing was related to the fact that
A) many of the wires have the same colours but with different functions.
B) It's almost impossible to read the pin numbers.
All the wiring you're referring to is at the GEM box.

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I had it easy when I became an ASTROSTART dealer.... their tech info included on most cars, up to 20 pictures..... I STILL tested every sigle wire.......

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howie ll....................thanks for that info.....the European version is what was messin with my old mind, i'm sure when i get the vehicle in my garage i'll figure it out for sure.   remember it's all fun and games as long as nobody gets hurt.....lol

zbo2. The funny thing with that, I've done a Mkl US Focus (about year 2000) and everything was in the same place.
Although the interior of the UK 2010 is new I'll bet that all they've done at most is integrate the fuse and GEM boxes similar to 05 (UK) Focus.
In the worst case I've got Directwire info for it so no problems if you need it.
What makes me worry less is that all the wire colours posted by Kreg
appear to be the same.

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I just finished my first 2010 Ford Transit connect. I found some things that are different from the wiring colors and polarities in this thread. For instance, the rear door trigger was BLACK/ red and a + trigger not a negative, located in the gray connector on the GEM module. The driver front door was BLACK / YELLOW as stated but also a positive not a negative. The passenger front door was BLACK/ blue as stated, but a positive trigger as well.(there are two BLACK/ blue wires of the same gauge in the harness, one is surveillance the other it the pass front pin) be sure to check these before making the connection. The two sliding doors were BLACK/ white and were in fact a negative trigger. Both pins are accessible from this one connection. Diode isolate the three positive trigger door pins and you should be good to go.

I also found that the door lock (BLACK/ orange) was in the gray connector on the GEM module, not the green. I connected to the battery directly for power, just a precaution, I don't trust 12v feeds in the ignition harness anymore. This vehicle will fall completely asleep after a 12 day period of no activity. The customer may need to know that if the dealer didn't tell them.

I found this thread to be helpful, hopefully it is more so now.

Thanks in advance, David

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Tech from 85 - 02 for two large companies in Dallas TX | Sales from 02 - 09 |Distributor sales from 09 - present.

Typically the best installers are salesmen and the best salesmen were installers.

David, thanks.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
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Sorry, forgot to mention that the rear door unlock was a two stage process. The system I used didn't have a two stage door lock feature, just a simple reverse polarity output. I used a relay on the output that switched to negative upon disarming the alarm. Pin 86 & 87 went to 12v. Pin 85 went to the alarm output (negative at unlock) and pin 30 went to the WHITE/ green wire in the green connector on the GEM module.

Make sure you test before you make permanent connections.

Thanks

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Tech from 85 - 02 for two large companies in Dallas TX | Sales from 02 - 09 |Distributor sales from 09 - present.

Typically the best installers are salesmen and the best salesmen were installers.

howie ll wrote:

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David, thanks.

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No problem, I will try to pay back what I learned in here today.

Thank you!

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Tech from 85 - 02 for two large companies in Dallas TX | Sales from 02 - 09 |Distributor sales from 09 - present.

Typically the best installers are salesmen and the best salesmen were installers.

Which is exactly what I posted back in August of last year

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howie ll wrote:

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Which is exactly what I posted back in August of last year

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I didn't mean to make you mad... LOL

I couldn't find anything in your posts that resembled my EXACT detailed information.

Sorry for posting in your thread.




















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Tech from 85 - 02 for two large companies in Dallas TX | Sales from 02 - 09 |Distributor sales from 09 - present.

Typically the best installers are salesmen and the best salesmen were installers.

Don't worry about making me mad, helpful, competent people don't make me mad just the ignorant morons who think they know it all and don't listen.
I didn't give colours for two reasons and this often applies to Euro Fords such as the Connect, Focus/Mazda 5/Volvo V50 and LandRover Freelander, Fiesta/Mazda 3.
1) The above vary from Europe to the USA on certain wire colours and functions, also remember I'm working from right hand drive cars.
2) It's been a few years since I worked on one, all I seem to be doing on current Fords are trackers.
I did give the rough positions, how to test which is probably obvious to you and the fact that the Connects in the UK are all cargo vehicles with separate unlock on side and rear and deadlock.

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Understood.

I will make sure that if I post wire colors that I also include the information that pertains to the origin of vehicles manufacture location.

Thank you for communitcating, obviously I'm the "new guy" and I don't really want to step on any toes.

Have a good day.

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Tech from 85 - 02 for two large companies in Dallas TX | Sales from 02 - 09 |Distributor sales from 09 - present.

Typically the best installers are salesmen and the best salesmen were installers.

Don't worry you haven't, your advice is good and well intentioned and I apologise for my surreal sense of humour.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
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Actually David don't worry about where made, that's a hairball; 95% of your replies are going to North America. Since I'm in the minority I'll specify.
Ref the Transit Connect (we've had a larger version called the Transit for 40 years so I have to differentiate), the lock motor wires are WHITE/ black, white, yellow/black, yellow and one more for deadlock (3 seconds pulse). I can't for the life of me remember which is which which is why we test.
As regards different markets, could you imagine a Focus RS with a Volvo T5 engine eating up Corvettes etc. in the US? (And that one is a right PITA to get round the ignition for an R/S).
Or just go to Honda UK and see how different our Civic is, especially the interior though the electrics are identical.

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