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2006 mishibishi outlander tach wire?

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Topic: 2006 mishibishi outlander tach wire?

Posted By: buddyle2002
Subject: 2006 mishibishi outlander tach wire?
Date Posted: October 01, 2010 at 10:55 AM

Can someone please tell me where exactly the tach wire in a 2006 mishibishi outlander......this is what i found on the net, but don't know exactly where.

Tachometer Wire Negative Wire (-): WHITE/ Green
Tachometer Wire Negative Wire Location: At Engine Speed Detection Connector. The engine speed detection connector is a single pin connector in the fuse/relay box under the hood.

but when i open the hood up, i see bunch of fuses and don't know which one they are talking about.  if some one can give me little more detail and perhap the picture of it, that would be awesome. thanks in advance.




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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 01, 2010 at 12:51 PM

If this wire is being used for a remote start Tach input signal, you could just connect to the #1 Fuel Injector Orange wire.  Might be easier to locate.  All quality remote starters are able to tach learn the F.I. signal.

To test the Tach wire with a Digital Multi Meter, set the meter for 20 V AC and connect the Black lead to chassis ground and the Red lead to the suspect wire.  Should show between 1 to 6 volts and increase with RPMs.



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Posted By: buddyle2002
Date Posted: October 01, 2010 at 2:05 PM
is that mean that I don't have to use this wire?  I am installing the remote start viper 5101 to this vehicle.  I wonder if anyone have the wire diagram which wire hook to which for this vehicle and this remote start.  I  also use the by pass 791 module.  Do you know which wire from 791 module hook to the viper 5101 and the vehicle?  I did have the spare key installed.  thanks for you quick respond.




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 01, 2010 at 5:08 PM

The Viper should be able to use the Fuel Injector as a Tach Source.  After you locate and verify the wire,
make sure the connection is soldered.  Set the Viper to Tach mode and do the Tach Learn sequence.

The Bulldog 791 bypass has only 3 wires to connect.  The Red wire goes to +12 v constant.  The Orange wire
goes to Chassis ground and the Blue wire goes to the Vipers' (-) 200mA Status Output ( usually Blue ).  Run
the antenna wire / loop to the ignition cylinder as described in the install guide.

As for the wiring guide, Bulldog Secutity has it.  Here is a link to their web site :  https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.asp
AudioVox has a wiring guide also.  Here is their link :  https://techservices.audiovox.com/Login.aspx   Sign-up is free.

The preferred way is to use the Tach mode for starting the vehicle.  That requires a Tach signal input. 
The Viper can run in Virtual Tach mode but depending on the vehicle it may not be as reliable as Tach mode.



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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 01, 2010 at 5:09 PM
Info you want should be on this site under vehicle wiring.

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 01, 2010 at 5:20 PM
Each injector will have two wires. One colour is common to all the injectors, just pick any of the others. (Square rail on top of cylinder head). Test as above.
Actually this vehicle isn't on the guide here, try Bulldog.

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Posted By: buddyle2002
Date Posted: October 04, 2010 at 11:00 PM
After I installed it....won't start or turn over...no power coming to the in to the ignition.
here are the wires that I connected:
Primary Harness (H1) 12 pin connector
h1/1---------not connect.
h1/2---------12 volt.
h1/3---------(-)horn.
h1/4---------not connect.
h1/5---------(-)chassis ground.
h1/6---------not connect.
h1/7---------not connect.
h1/8---------not connect.
h1/9---------not connect.
h1/10---------parking light output.
h1/11--------not connect.
h1/12--------not connect.

Auxiliary Harness (H2) 7 pin connector
H2/1--------not connect.
H2/2--------not connect.
H2/3--------not connect.
H2/4--------not connect.
H2/5--------not connect.
H2/6--------not connect.
H2/7--------not connect.

HEAVY GAUGE REMOTE START (H3) 8 PINS CONNECTOR

H3/1 pink----------------to ignition Blue/Black
H3/2 RED / white-----------to NOT CONNECT
H3/3 orange--------------to accessory 1 Blue/Red
H3/4 violet--------------to starter BLACK / YELLOW
H3/5 red-----------------to 12 volt
H3/6 pink/white----------to accessory 2 Blue / YELLOW
H3/7 pink/black----------to NOT CONNECT
H3/8 RED / black-----------to 12 volt

Remote Start Input 5 pin connector
1---not connect
2---not connect (tach input)
3---to brake
4---to hood pin
5---not connect.
there are 3 wires on the #1 fuel injector (black & white & gray / YELLOW) and not sure which one to connect to. i don't have the tool to test at this time.

remote start auxiliary out put 5 pin
1----not connect
2----not connect
3----not connect
4----not connect
5----to 791 bypass (blue wire)

Door Lock Harness 3 pin connector
1-----unlock
2-----not connect
3-----lock.
unlock and lock work fine.

please let me know what i do wrong here.





Posted By: buddyle2002
Date Posted: October 04, 2010 at 11:11 PM
Primary harness (H1), 12-pin connector
H1/1     RED / WHITE     (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT
H1/2     RED     (+)12v CONSTANT INPUT
H1/3     BROWN     (-) HORN OUTPUT
H1/4     WHITE/ BROWN     LIGHT FLASH ISOLATION WIRE -
        PIN 87a of onboard relay
H1/5     BLACK     (-) CHASSIS GROUND
H1/6     VIOLET     (+) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT*
H1/7     BLUE     (-) FACTORY HORN INPUT**
H1/8     GREEN     (-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT*
H1/9     BLACK/ WHITE     (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT OUTPUT
H1/10     WHITE/ BLUE     (-) REMOTE START/ TURBO TIMER ACTIVATION INPUT
H1/11     WHITE      PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT
H1/12     ORANGE     (-) 500mA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT

Auxiliary harness (H2), 7-pin connector
H2/1     LIGHT GREEN/ BLACK     (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM DISARM OUTPUT
H2/2     LIGHT GREEN / WHITE     (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM ARM OUTPUT
H2/3     WHITE/ VIOLET             (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT
H2/4     VIOLET/BLACK             (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT
H2/5     WHITE/ BLACK             (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT
H2/6     LIGHT BLUE             (-) 200mA 2ND UNLOCK OUTPUT
H2/7     GRAY/BLACK             (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT

Heavy gauge remote start, (H3) 8-pin connector
H3/1     PINK     IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT
H3/2     RED / WHITE     (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87
H3/3     ORANGE     ACCESSORY OUTPUT
H3/4     VIOLET     STARTER OUTPUT
H3/5     RED     (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT
H3/6     PINK/WHITE     IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT 30
H3/7     PINK/BLACK     FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A key side (if required) of FLEX RELAY
H3/8     RED / BLACK     (+) FUSED (30A) ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT

Remote start input, 5-pin connector
1     BLACK/ WHITE     (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH INPUT
2     VIOLET/WHITE     TACHOMETER INPUT
3     BROWN      (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT
4     GRAY     N/O or N/C (-) HOOD PIN SWITCH INPUT
5     BLUE/WHITE     (-) 200 mA 2ND STATUS/REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT

Remote start auxiliary output, 5-pin
1     PINK/WHITE     (-) 200mA FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT
2     ORANGE     (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT
3     VIOLET     (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT
4     PINK     (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT
5     BLUE     (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT

Door lock harness, 3-pin connector
1     BLUE     (+) LOCK (-) UNLOCK OUTPUT
2     EMPTY     NOT USED
3     GREEN      (-) LOCK (+) UNLOCK OUTPUT

for the 2006 wire diagram.

MITSUBISHI

MODEL      YEAR(S)
OUTLANDER       2003 -2006
KEY      T-HARNESS      IMMOBILIZER
N/A       N/A       MITSUBISHI TRANSPONDER ANTI-THEFT SYSTEM, Requires 791 Bypass Module and extra Ignition Key
PART       COLOR      LOCATION      DIAGRAM
12 VOLT CONSTANT      BLUE/WHITE (+)       IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS      

STARTER      BLACK / YELLOW (+)       IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS      

STARTER 2      N/A           

IGNITION 1      BLUE/BLACK (+)      IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     

IGNITION 2      N/A           

IGNITION 3      N/A            

ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 1      BLUE/RED (+)       IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS      

ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 2      BLUE / YELLOW (+)       IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS      

KEYSENSE      N/A            

PARKING LIGHTS ( - )      N/A            

PARKING LIGHTS ( + )      GREEN / WHITE (+)       @ 15-PIN PLUG, PIN 2, BELOW FUSES      

POWER LOCK      LIGHT GREEN/ RED (TYPE B)       @ ETACS ECU, Pin 34, See NOTE *1      

POWER UNLOCK      BROWN / RED (TYPE B)       @ ETACS ECU, Pin 33, See NOTE *1      

LOCK MOTOR WIRE      BLUE/BLACK (+)       @ 28-PIN PLUG, PIN 19, ABOVE FUSEBOX      

DOOR TRIGGER      BROWN (-)       @ 15-PIN PLUG, PIN 10, BELOW FUSES      

DOMELIGHT SUPERVISION      RED (-) Requires Part #775 Relay       @ PIN 1, IN 3-PIN PLUG, BELOW FUSES      

TRUNK RELEASE      N/A            

SLIDING POWER DOOR      N/A            

HORN      LIGHT GREEN/ BLACK (-)       @ ETACS ECU, PIN 44, See NOTE *1      

TACH      WHITE/ GREEN       @ ENGINE SPEED DETECTION CONNECTOR, See NOTE *2      

WAIT TO START LIGHT      N/A            

BRAKE      BLUE/ORANGE (+)       @ SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL      

FACTORY ALARM DISARM      BROWN / WHITE (-)       @ ETACS ECU, PIN 25, See NOTE *1      

ANTI-THEFT      TRANSPONDER ANTI-THEFT SYSTEM, REQUIRES 791 BYPASS MODULE AND EXTRA IGNITION KEY       TRANSPONDER @ IGNITION SWITCH TUMBLER      

NOTES
NOTE *1 THE ETACS (Electronic Timing/Alarm Control System) ECU (Electronic Control Unit) IS ATTACHED TO THE BACK OF THE FUSEBOX.


NOTE *2 THE ENGINE SPEED DETECTION CONNECTOR IS A SINGLE PIN CONNECTOR IN THE FUSE/RELAY BOX UNDER THE HOOD













Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 05, 2010 at 2:44 AM
Check your power and grounds with a DMM, check to see if you're getting output, leave the key in the ignition then try a R/S, answer these queries and tell us what happens. Do you get instrument panel lights coming on?

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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: buddyle2002
Date Posted: October 05, 2010 at 6:21 AM
i will test the ground when i get home tonight.  i tried with the key inside the ignition, but no sucesse.  it's beeping 7 times when try to remote start it with the key or without.  No panel lights come on at all.  that's really weird.  I installed these remotes start before and very rare i see this problem.  does all wires connectiong look ok???  thanks.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 05, 2010 at 6:27 AM
Check the installation guide, if your vehicle is an auto, have you programmed it as such?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 05, 2010 at 6:27 AM

Connect H3/2 to +12v constant.  It supplies the Flex relay power.

Connect Remote Start Input Pin 2 Violet/White Tach input wire to a verified Tach source.  Make sure Viper is set to Tach Mode. ( Menu 3 Menu Item 2 Option 4. )  Start with key and do Tach Learn process.

Connect the Remote Start Input Pin 1 BLACK/ White Neutral Safety switch wire to chassis ground. ( Assuming automatic transmission )

Still assuming automatic transmission, did you change Menu 3 Menu Item 1 to Option 2?



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Posted By: buddyle2002
Date Posted: October 06, 2010 at 12:10 AM
HEAVY GAUGE REMOTE START (H3) 8 PINS CONNECTOR

H3/1 pink----------------to ignition Blue/Black
H3/2 RED / white-----------to NOT CONNECT

H3/2 RED / white also connected to 12 volt and still getting the 7 beeps.

H3/3 orange--------------to accessory 1 Blue/Red

this H3/3 Blue/Red in the car is NOT accessory wire. when I turn the key to ACC; no power going through. then I turn to next turn and power came in through.

H3/4 violet--------------to starter BLACK / YELLOW
H3/5 red-----------------to 12 volt
H3/6 pink/white----------to accessory 2 Blue / YELLOW NOT SURE TO THE RIGHT CONNECTION???

I don't have any way to test the 2nd accessory wire from the car.

H3/7 pink/black----------to NOT CONNECT
H3/8 RED / black-----------to 12 volt

I verified the Negative wire, it's fine. the weird thing is I never see a primary connection for remote start doesn't have the large negative wire, real odd...unless I missed some how. the only 2 wires go to ground is the orange from 791 and negative from h1/5.

I still can't find which of the wire is go to the tach. but i think the car will try to start without the tach wire right?

Could it be the remote module is in manual car mode...my vehicle is automatic. I read the manual instruction and not able to under stand how to change the mode to automatic. are there any easier instruction out there? Viper is good brand, but they installation instruction really need to prove, too damn long and complicated. thank you so much for your help guys....i try to prepare before the winter come for my kids early morning school.




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 06, 2010 at 7:16 AM

The best way to test wires in your vehicle is with a Digital Multi Meter.  A plain circuit tested ( with a 12 volt light bulb and even some with LEDs ) will draw too much current and could damage the computer circuits in the vehicle.  Just guessing will damage more.

Re H3/3 and the ACC wire.  The correct accesssory wire will show +12v in the ON position and will go to 0v in the Start position.  It might show +12v in the ACC position, however things like Heat / AC fans, compressors, etc are not powered in the ACC position.  The sources I checked indicate you have two ACC wires, Blue/Red and Blue / YELLOW.   Did you change the Flex Relay option over to ACC2 from IGN2?  (The car should start without any ACCs connected.)

Seven blink error code says you are in Mantual Transmission mode.  See earlier post for programming option to change.

While Tach Mode is the most reliable, you could try to run it in Voltage or Virtual Tach mode.  Again, a DMM is the best way to locate and verify a Tach wire.



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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 06, 2010 at 9:31 AM
As with a lot of other newbies, reading my bye line below would solve an awful lot of problems before you contact us, also RTFM.

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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.





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