factory locks disarm aftermarket alarm
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: factory locks disarm aftermarket alarm
Posted By: dasbogie
Subject: factory locks disarm aftermarket alarm
Date Posted: October 06, 2010 at 4:14 PM
I know this has been asked before but here goes again. Does anybody have good experience with a remote start security combo that has inputs to disarm the aftermarket alarm? I am looking at a ford which has the keyless entry pad on the driver door and well, you get what I'm going for. There is no factory alarm on this jalopy so I prefer to have something. I'm most familiar with dei products but they have jack squat in this dept. If you got an ace up your sleeve give me a model number and manufacturer so I can locate it. Thank You
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Posted By: 91stt
Date Posted: October 06, 2010 at 10:15 PM
Omega R&D have a number of systems that provide this feature
Excalibur AL-1610EDP, AL-1620EDP, AL-1810EDP, AL-1820EDP, AL-1920EDP
Crime Guard 810i6, 830i6
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This information is provided only as a reference.
All circuits should be verified with a digital multi-meter prior to making any connections.
Posted By: blanx218
Date Posted: October 08, 2010 at 11:42 PM
If you like DEI stuff. Get an Automate AM1. Its a factory keyless entry upgrade and is cake to install. I've done about 20 of them.
Posted By: 91stt
Date Posted: October 11, 2010 at 12:10 AM
the AM1 does not have remote start
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All circuits should be verified with a digital multi-meter prior to making any connections.
Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: October 11, 2010 at 6:31 AM
My understanding is that Avox is coming out with a RS/alarm upgrade...
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Posted By: speedfreak20
Date Posted: October 12, 2010 at 10:55 AM
if you like dei you can use a AM1 and an add on remote start (avital 4100 i think thats the model number i forget ) to your factory key pad you can use them both together with no problems
Posted By: dasbogie
Date Posted: October 12, 2010 at 3:51 PM
thanks for all of the replies. I am going to go with one of the omega products 91stt listed. I would like to find one that accepts the blade module for less modules chilling in the car.
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Posted By: dasbogie
Date Posted: October 12, 2010 at 4:03 PM
Here's a silly question, if a blade module is branded with, say compustar, will it still be compatible with the omega? I have used idatalink bypasses just not the blade.
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Posted By: 91stt
Date Posted: October 12, 2010 at 6:20 PM
Omega are coming out with Blade compatible models but I do not believe they are shipping yet, I'll need to check with my distributor.
These are the combo units
Excalibur AL-1630EDPB, AL-1830EDPB, AL-2030EDPB
edit: the 30 series I listed here can use both ADS/idatalink and Trilogix (DEI) protocols on the dataport.
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This information is provided only as a reference.
All circuits should be verified with a digital multi-meter prior to making any connections.
Posted By: a471789
Date Posted: October 13, 2010 at 11:19 PM
I hate to ruin your great idea, but if you have an alarm that has a disarm input and tie it to factory unlock and someone breaks into the vehicle...doesn't that mean if they press the unlock button on the inside, it will disarm the alarm as well? Just a thought.
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Brent
MECP Advanced Installer
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Posted By: dasbogie
Date Posted: October 14, 2010 at 2:33 AM
yes indeed
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 14, 2010 at 2:35 AM
Yes but the original Euro equivalents from about 10 years ago tied into the direction indicators as well as lock sensing, both had to activate to disarm the add-on alarm. Because in Europe, operating the factory remote brought on the indicators (lights) as well.
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Posted By: 91stt
Date Posted: October 14, 2010 at 9:14 AM
a471789 wrote:
I hate to ruin your great idea, but if you have an alarm that has a disarm input and tie it to factory unlock and someone breaks into the vehicle...doesn't that mean if they press the unlock button on the inside, it will disarm the alarm as well? Just a thought.
Not necessarily, it depends on the vehicle. Some vehicles have dedicated wires from the receiver to the doorlock module/relays. I may also be possible to diode isolate the wires to prevent the switches from turning the system on or off. Omega's idea for the arm and disarm inputs are to interface with their GPS tracking units so a person can arm/lock and disarm/unlock remotely by phone or the web, but they can be adapted for other uses. ------------- This information is provided only as a reference.
All circuits should be verified with a digital multi-meter prior to making any connections.
Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: October 15, 2010 at 2:20 PM
Mike M2 wrote:
My understanding is that Avox is coming out with a RS/alarm upgrade...
It should be out now, or at least soon. This morning I met with two Audiovox sales reps and their head of tech support, and got to see the new unit in person.
It comes with two single-button remotes for long-range starting. If you don't need the range, you can leave the single-button remote at home and start the engine using the factory remote (press Lock, Unlock, Lock).
The factory remotes will arm and disarm the alarm system.
The alarm has door trigger, shock sensor, and horn honk. A siren is not included, but I'd imagine the unit probably still has a siren output so you could add your own.
Link:
https://www.lesscoelectronics.com/Pursuit_AS9233ST_Add_On_Remote_Start_System_AS9233_p/as9233st.htm
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