remote starting, 2005 sunfire

Hey guys

I am currently installing a remote starter in my 2005 pontaic sunfire manual trasnmission with that being said i do have three imporatnt questions that being.

1) for the bypass where would I be getting the power for it... said that it needs a constant power source. fused at three amps...would I be tying this onto my iggniton power souce where my remote start also connects to? or should i just use a fuse tap.

2) my iggniton harness has two red covered wires coming from it and the remote starter asks for two power sources should i be useing them both?.. my meter seems to not want to work today ugh.

3) would anyone know where i would be getting my hand break leed from?

keeping in mind this car is a 2005 pontaic sunfire manual trans.

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ugh ohh..how i wish i had waited for every ones responce....although i had found the parking park wire (thank you)..have i done wrong by using the 12 volt constant off the iggniton wires as my power soucre? they are fused at 50 amps on the fuse block and the remote starter only rquires 30 amp fuseing.

will that be ok or not?

also  would anyone know how I connect my remote starter to my bypass modual as i am yet to see a way to do so. I am useing a prostart 3 in one 1 system and a xpress kit bypass

Thanks again.

Using the 50A rated +12v constants at the ignition switch is OK.

Which bypass model are you using for the Passlock2?

And to clear up the Parking Brake wire issue, what color, location & polarity did you find?

hey the model of  bypass i had used for my car eas a PLJX Xpresskit farily easy to install how ever i can not figure out how it connect to my remote starter.

as far as the parking park gose i cannot rember atm however i will take a loot tmr for you.. glad to hear i can use

thanks

Follow the PLJX guide on Page 6 for your car.  Set jumper to "B" position. 

As for wiring to the remote starter,  Red goes to +12v constant, Black goes to chassis ground, Pink goes to Ignition, Violet goes to Starter and Brown goes to a signal called (-) Out When Running.  Rather than running the wires all the way to the ignition switch you can connect to the corresponding remote starter wires ( that go to the ignition switch ).  Just remember not to connect the Brown  wire until after its programmed.

hey thanks Kreg dont know how I missed that ground out when running part.

As some may have noticed i have installed(ish) a remote starter on my 2005 pontiac sunfire 2.2 ecotec.(standard)

I know all my wires are in the right places besides the door pins as i am waiting for diodes to come in. however it just wont start.

after looking into it some more I have come across the need for a clutch bypass.. would this be needed ? if so could someone kindly explane the best way for this to be done in my car ...some diagrams would be great to thank you (alot)

or is this just not needed ? or can you think of anything else that would be needed thanks.

First and foremost - is the remote starter "manual transmission safe"?   Which brand & model?

Try a remote start with the clutch pedal depressed. 

Or try to start the car with the key and the clutch pedal not depressed ( transmission in neutral, please    )

The 20 million dollar question.

What are you installing?

hey yes it is a standard safe remote start 3 in one pro start two way remote..

I know there is a formula to put it in ready mode but that dose not seem to want to work either..the power trunk works and will arm the theft system however the remote starting will not happen.

either way would anyone be able to direct my to a clutch bypass for my car as well of some tips/ thing to ways to find a way to get it working.

thanks

Weak battery?  The remote start & bypass do add some drain.

If you cut the Starter wire to add in the starter kill relay, double check for poor connections.

Not familiar with ProStart 3 in 1 unit.  Most units have a procedure to get the unit in "Reservation" or "Ready" Mode.  Typically the door triggers and the Emergency Brake must be connected & working. 

As for the clutch bypass, here is a recent thread with the basic info :  https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~123887~PN~1  You want to make sure the unit is in Manual Trans mode, the door triggers and EBrake are hooked up and do all the safety checks.  These ensure that the car is in neutral & running, the doors are locked before the engine is turned off ( Reservation Mode entry ).  Also the doors are never opened again before the remote start.

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aaahh i had gone out to my catr to start it manualy and it wont start once again ..when key is turned the car just makes a clicking sound with no luck..there is still power to the car as i can turn the lights on but the car will not turn over ugh ...

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If you cant start the car regularly, you obviously did something wrong. What model bypass are you using? Its possible that you didnt hook that up correctly.

And at the very worst....maybe you blew a fuse.

Could be a weak battery like kreg said too.

Door pins are mandatory.  Needed to ensure no one entered the car and put transmission into gear.  Thats why remote starts for manual transmission convertable cars are not recommended.  Most remote starters actually watch the door pins while entering "Reservation Mode" to know when you exit the car, close the last door and prior to the R/S locking the doors.  ( I am referring to Compustar units that I install. )

The clutch bypass is needed for the same reason,  you have to depress the clutch pedal when you start the car with a key.  The R/S has to do the same thing.  It's a safety interlock that is built into the car  that prevents the starter from engaging unless the pedal is depressed.  You could get the car into "Reservation Mode" but because of the clutch switch it would never get the Start signal to the cars' starter and crank / start the engine.

The Install Guide should be very clear about the extra wires, procedures and safety checks that are mandatory if installing on a manual transmission car....