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2008 Honda Pilot Alarm/Remote Start

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=124151
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Topic: 2008 Honda Pilot Alarm/Remote Start

Posted By: snake07
Subject: 2008 Honda Pilot Alarm/Remote Start
Date Posted: October 27, 2010 at 11:16 AM

Hi all,

I've been looking for a wiring diragram for a remote starter and alarm for an 08 Honda Pilot and I found a wiring diagram for an 09 on this website

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~106363

I just wondering if it's going to be the same ? also the wiring diagram didn't say:

1/ Which wire is for an Immobilizer bypass

2/ Which Immobilizer bypass module is compatible.

I'd appreciate for all inputs.




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Posted By: icearrow6
Date Posted: October 27, 2010 at 12:58 PM
Here is a wiring diagram. Hope this helps

HONDA

MODEL      YEAR(S)
PILOT      2005 -2008
KEY      T-HARNESS      IMMOBILIZER
N/A      N/A      HONDA'S TRANSPONDER ANTI-THEFT SYSTEM, REQUIRES 791 BYPASS MODULE AND EXTRA IGNITION KEY
PART       COLOR      LOCATION
12 VOLT CONSTANT      WHITE (+)      IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
STARTER      BLACK/ WHITE (+)      IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
STARTER 2      N/A     
IGNITION 1      BLACK / YELLOW (+)      IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
IGNITION 2      N/A     
IGNITION 3      N/A     
ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 1      YELLOW (+)      IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 2      WHITE/ BLACK (+)      IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
KEYSENSE      BLUE/BLACK (-) (Required)      IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
PARKING LIGHTS ( - )      RED / YELLOW (-)      @ HEADLIGHT SWITCH
PARKING LIGHTS ( + )      RED / BLACK (+)      @ DRIVERS FUSEBOX, LIGHT GREEN 20-Pin Plug
POWER LOCK      BLACK/ ORANGE (TYPE B) See NOTE *1      @ PASSENGER FUSEBOX, LIGHT GREEN 20-Pin Plug
POWER UNLOCK      BLUE/ORANGE (TYPE B) See NOTE *1      @ PASSENGER FUSEBOX, LIGHT GREEN 20-Pin Plug
DOOR TRIGGER      BLACK/ WHITE (-)      @ INTERIOR LIGHT SWITCH on DASH
DOMELIGHT SUPERVISION      LIGHT GREEN (-), Requires Part #775 Relay      @ INTERIOR LIGHT SWITCH on DASH
TRUNK RELEASE      N/A     
SLIDING POWER DOOR      N/A     
HORN      LIGHT GREEN/ BLUE (-)      @ HORN SWITCH in COLUMN
TACH      BLUE      @ DRIVERS FUSEBOX, LIGHT GREEN 10-Pin Plug
WAIT TO START LIGHT      N/A     
BRAKE      WHITE/ BLACK (+)      @ SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL
FACTORY ALARM DISARM      BLACK/ RED to BLUE (-) See NOTE *2      @ DRIVERS DOOR in DOOR MODULE
ANTI-THEFT      TRANSPONDER ANTI-THEFT SYSTEM, REQUIRES 791 BYPASS MODULE AND EXTRA IGNITION KEY, Standard on All Models      TRANSPONDER @ IGNITION SWITCH TUMBLER
EXTRA INFORMATION
NOTE *1 Test these wires while using the POWER DOOR LOCK SWITCH on the PASSENGER DOOR only. NOTE *2 Test this wire while turning the KEY in the DRIVERS DOOR KEY CYLINDER.



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Posted By: snake07
Date Posted: October 27, 2010 at 1:14 PM

Thanks a lot, icearrow6.

In the wiring diagram, it said required "791 Bypass Module with Extra Ignition key". Do I have to use a spare key ?





Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 27, 2010 at 1:59 PM

No, you don't have to use the 791 Universal Bypass and lose a key.  There are several good transponder bypass modules for your Pilot.

The PKH34 and the PKALL come pre-loaded and all ready to install.  Here is a link to DEI's offerings :  https://www.xpresskit.com/VehicleCompatibility.aspx?p=-1&year=2008&make=Honda&model=Pilot&ps=1&s=0

Download the install guides for those models to see the wiring and programming requirements.



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 27, 2010 at 2:12 PM

For cross reference purposes on the car wiring, here is a link to the AudioVox site : https://techservices.audiovox.com/Login.aspx  Sign-up is free.

Remember, these are only guides, the Bulldog Security one posted above may not match the AudioVox listing, so double check everything with a Digital Multi Meter.



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Posted By: snake07
Date Posted: October 27, 2010 at 2:14 PM

Thank you Kreg357,

That's a good news for me since I prefer the one w/o having to put a spare key on it.

Another question is the wiring diagram didn't show which wire is for Immobilizer bypass input since the output of the Immobilizer bypass output got to feed into the transponder of the car.





Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 27, 2010 at 2:54 PM

If you are referring to the GWR wire from the bypass ( the Brown wire in the case of the PKH34 ), it will connect to the remote starter.  Which brand and model are you using?  The wire can have many names depending on the remote starter brand.  (-) Status, (-) Status Output, Ground When Running, Ground While Running, (-) 3rd Ignition, etc....

The manufacturer of the bypass module supplies a wiring diagram for their bypass that you can use to make the connections to the car.  They are usually very accurate, but I still compare diagrams from the PKALL to the PKH34, to the XK05, to the ADS TB, to the KEY-OVERRIDE-ALL,  just to be prepared.



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Posted By: snake07
Date Posted: October 27, 2010 at 3:50 PM

I got you and I was confusing the bypass has to connect to the car's transponder which is not and it connects to the remote starter.

I'm still debating between the 3 remote starter and alarm brands.

1/ Compustar 2W900FM

2/ Autopage RS730

3/ Prestige APS997N





Posted By: godd dan it
Date Posted: October 27, 2010 at 11:24 PM

All of those systems are pretty decent. I never installed any Compustar stuff or am familiar with them. I heard they make good stuff tho. The Autopage systems that have LCD remotes "can" take a little awhile to respond. Only thing I dont like about their LCD remote systems.



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Posted By: snake07
Date Posted: October 28, 2010 at 7:54 AM
Compustar is pretty good, I installed exactly the same unit on my 04 Acura MDX and it's been working fine for the last 3 yrs.  It's just a little pricy compared to the rest.  I've just installed a Prestige system on my Dad's 05 Camry a few weeks ago, it's a one way remote starter system and it's also working great except I don't like their installation manual.




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: October 28, 2010 at 8:56 PM

audiovox manuals are impossible to understand. im still confused by it.

i prefer compustar, but thats just my preferance. all these are good brands. if you have not installed one before, i suggest seeking professional help.



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2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert




Posted By: snake07
Date Posted: November 08, 2010 at 9:00 AM
 finally picked the Compustar 2W900FM with a CM3000 brain and  I installed yesterday.  Most major functions of the remote starter works fine like remote start, lock, unlock.  Some minor issues as follow and I hope I can get help to complete the installation.

1/ LED on the driver door (OEM LED) won't be flashing when I locked with a Compustar remote.  I used a disarm wire to disarm the factory alarm but did not use a rearm wire output from the Compustar brain to rearm the factoray alarm since I can't find a rearm wire and it's not listed on the 2008 Pilot wiring diagram.  Anybody know if I need this wire to rearm factory alarm or it'd rearm once the door is locked ?

2/ The keysense wire is listed on the 2008 Pilot wiring diagram but I can't find any where on the Compustar brain I/O that I can connect to, what's the purpose of this wire ?

3/ I'd like to change some of the setting on the compustar CM3000 like ignition door lock, door lock after remotely started but I can't change the setting.  I followed the CM3000 manual procedure as follow:

- Press I and II (to access to option table 1), I and IV ( to access to option table 2).

-Press IV to access to option number listed in table 1.

-Press I and II to change the setting.

I've tried over and over but never been able to change the setting, any suggestions would be appreciated.





Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 08, 2010 at 10:08 AM

1.  Here is Factory rearm wire location from AudioVox.  It is inside the drivers door.

          Alarm Arm                    BLUE/WHITE  (-)                  AT MODULE IN DRIVER DOOR

2.  Don't really need Keysense on Honda's.

3.  Sorry, can't help you, never programmed the CM3000, only the newer CM5x00 and CM6x00 with the OP500 programmer.



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Posted By: snake07
Date Posted: November 08, 2010 at 10:34 AM

kreg357, thanks a lot for the info. 

I don't have the OP500 programmer and I've been trying to program the CM3000 by the 2W900FM remote.   I was able to program the CM3000 on my 04 Acura MDX just fine and of course it was 3 yrs ago.  Now I don't remember how I did it so for this installation, I just follow whatever the installation manual said.





Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 08, 2010 at 11:53 AM

Here is the programming guide from a CM3000 manual. 

Option Programming for Four Button Remotes

Step 1: For Programming menu 1: Press Buttons (I+II) for 2 seconds.
        For Programming menu 2: Press Buttons (I+IV) for 2 seconds. The car will chirp once indicating that you are in programming mode.
Step 2: Within a 2 second after pressing (I+II) or (I+IV), press Button IV the number of times to go to the option number you want to change. You have       to hear a chirp and see the parking light flash each time when you press Button IV.
Step 3: Wait a few seconds. You will hear a number of chirps and see a number of parking light flashes corresponding to the option number you want to change. If the number of chirps or flashes is not what you want, go back to Step 1.
Step 4: Press Button I for the default factory settings and your car will respond by one chirp and one flash. Press Button II for the optional setting and your car will respond by two chirps and two parking flashes.

  If you hear a long chirp, you are going out of programming mode, please go back to Step 1.
  If you want to change more options, go back to Step 1.

Sounds like you are following the steps.  To clarify, at Step 2, you press button IV once for each step down thru the option table.  Then wait to hear the chirps that correspond to the option position you are at.  Then press button I to select the default or button II to select the optional setting.



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Posted By: snake07
Date Posted: November 08, 2010 at 1:26 PM

I did not use the Siren came with the CM3000 and I used the horn in the car so when I program I did not hear a chirp and the parking light did flash each time I pressed button IV.

For example the following settings I'd like to change:

1/ Unlock before, Lock After Starting, Lock after remote start.  It's in Menu #1 and option 1-1.  I did the following steps:

+ Step 1: I pressed button I +II on the remote - the parking light flashed once

+ Step 2: I pressed button IV once (since I'd like to get to option 1-1) - the parking light flashed once.

+ Step 3: I did not see a parking light flash once to confirm option #1 I'd like to change.

+ Step 4: I pressed button II once - parking light did not flash

2/ Ignition controlled door lock. It's in Menu #2 and option 2-5.

+ Step 1 : I pressed button I + IV on the remote - the parking light flashed once.

+ Step 2 : I pressed button IV 5 times (I'd like to get to option 2-5) - the parking light flashed each time I press button IV.

+ Step 3: I did not see a parking light flash 5 times to confirm I'm in option 2-5.

+ Step 4: I pressed button II once - parking light did not flash.

I'd tried to set these 2 setting for over 1hr last night and still can't get those options to set.  I can't get step 3, 4 to respond the way the manual described. 





Posted By: snake07
Date Posted: November 08, 2010 at 4:35 PM

I've just found another problem before I left work today, I remotely started the car and the alarm went off.  I believe it's the factory alarm.  I suspected I did not hook up the disarm wire correctly.  

Based on the 08 pilot wiring diagram, the disarm wire is

BLACK/ red to blue - driver lock key cylinder

I found a BLACK/ red wire in the driver window control module and used this wire, not the "BLACK/ red to blue" wire as in the description of the wiring diagram.  I tested the BLACK/ red wire and it was (-) when unlock so I believed it's a disarm wire.





Posted By: snake07
Date Posted: November 10, 2010 at 8:17 AM

I got the CM3000 to program the options I wanted successfully.  The reason I fail to program it before was I did too fast and did not wait for the 3rd step (parking light flashing ) to respond from the CM3000.

The only thing left was to rewire the disarm wire to the correct wire and also wire the rearm wire and this should be done on the weekend.

Thanks again kreg357,





Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 10, 2010 at 8:42 AM

Here is a note from Bulldog Security to assist in finding the correct DisArm wire  :

FACTORY ALARM DISARM                 BLACK/ RED to BLUE (-) See NOTE *2                         @ DRIVERS DOOR in DOOR MODULE 

NOTE *2 Test this wire while turning the KEY in the DRIVERS DOOR KEY CYLINDER.



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Posted By: snake07
Date Posted: November 10, 2010 at 8:54 AM

I looked on AUDIOVOX website and their description of the "Disarm Wire" is "BLUE" and I think it'll make more sense with a "BLUE" wire since I can't find and I don't get how's the "BLACK/ RED TO BLUE" wire look like.  I found the "BLACK/ RED" wire and I connected to this wire but that's not it.






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