2000 maxima remote start

Hey guys, Okay the car is a 2000 Nissan Maxima and the equipment is a Viper 5701 security w/ R/S and a DEI 556uw immobilizer unit. I put the coaded key inside the 556u, I put the rf ring around the key cylinder of the car (but i didn,t disable the factory key reader in the cylinder), i connected the blue wire to the status wire (blue/white) of the alarm and cut the starter wire to connect them according to the wiring diagram. when I attempt to remote start the car i get a 7 chirmp signal from the alarm. Am I missing something? and what about the Programing?

The 7 blinks means that you are still in Manual Transmission Mode.  Is this car an automatic?  If you don't have one, download the Viper 5701 Install Guide from the "Downloads" section.  There is a programming option that needs to be changed if your car is an Automatic. ( Menu 3, Menu Item 1, Option 2.  Here is a link with programming instructions :  https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=711 )   If it is a manual, then you didn't enter into "Reservation Mode".

The Viper unit is fairly complex and the Install Guide can clear up a lot of issues.

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Yes, The car is Automatic. Also a question about the rf ring on the DEI 556uw, should i locate the ring around the key cylinder and leave the factory transponder intact or cut the factory ring and wire into it like option 2 on the 556uw manual?

Just securely mount the 556u antenna in  the correct location.  No need to do the Option 2 install.  The 556U will only broadcast the "key in the box" transponder code when the remote starter is active.

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...and the parking neutral safety cable should be grounded to chassis. There is also a cable labeled Turbo Start that is wired to a switch then grounded on the other end. Other than the Red, RED / Black, RED / White wires that go to 12volt Constant, the 2 that go to both sides of the starter cable (Ign side/ Motor side). What other wires do i absolutely need to hook up to make the R/S work?

Well, lets see...  On the car side, there's

Ignition 1
Starter 1
Starter 2
Accessory 1
Accessory 2
Parking Light (+)  - could be considered optional
Brake (+)
Tach  -  could go Virtual Tach but...
Door Trigger(s)

All wires in the car should be verified with a DMM prior to making any connections.

Plus desirable optional items like Lock, UnLock, Trunk and Factory Alarm Disarm (if equipped)

On the Viper side, there's

All four +12v power wires
Chassis Ground
Parking Light Output
Door Trigger (-)
Neutral Safety Switch
Tach
Brake
Hood Pin
(-) Accessory ( to relay for ACC2 )
Status Output
Everything on the H3 except H3/8
The 556u with a spare key

Plus the above "desirable items"...

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.All wires of the h3 harnest are connected except pink/black. BLACK/ white (neutral switch) is grounded. Brake cable is hooked. Tach is not. Door trigger is up. When I try r/s, it gives me 1long red sigal and 8 chirps. (neutral switch) but wire is grounded.

Eight chirps sounds like the Neutral Safety switch.  I would double check that wire and connection.

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Make sure you have the inline toggle switch plugged in and in the on position.

Okay,Just to verify. The (-) Accessory ( to relay for ACC2 )
Status Output is the Blue wire of the Viper and it goes to the Blue wire of the 556u which gives a negative signal to the immobilizer box.

I don't think this car has Starter 2.

The brake wire should show me a (+) polarity when not pressed and switches to (-) polarity when pressed?

My Neutral safety switch is grounded at the same point as the Vipers Ground wire.

Tach. is not connected but this car is automatic and i dont think that it would stop the viper from even trying to crank over.

And All four +12V Power wires are the 3 fused from H3 harness and the main 12V+ from the alarm itself (also fused).

I don't Know if the toggle switch would make a difference but i tried it both ways.

...and still I get the same result. Red light with one long error sound from the remote followed by 7 clicks from the alarm.


I am stomped. I can only think that either the rf ring is not sending the frequency correctly to the Key Cylinder, it's not on the right location, or it's defective.

Am i missing something?. How can i check to reduce my conclutions and pinpoint the problem?

Did you program the Viper to Automatic Transmission?  Menu 3, Menu Item 1, Option 2

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Both Bulldog and Audiovox list 2 Starter wires.  BLACK/ Red and BLACK/ Blue

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Yes, I programmed Automatic several times and waited for the 2 chirp conformation. And if there is two starter wires, I cut the Black / Red and hooked up Ignition side and Engine side, If there is something to do with the Black / Blue wire than that may be it although I get a Positive signal on the Black / Red wire with test light during key cranking in ignition switch.

Am i suppose to connect both wires? if so, how do i isolate them?

Seven blinks usually means that you are still in MTS and did not enter "Reservation Mode".  It has been mentioned on this forum before that changing to Automatic Trans can be difficult and can take several tries.

Starter2 not connected will allow the car to crank but a "cold" engine will not start.

AudioVox lists two Ignition wires, two Starter wires and one Accessory wire.  Bulldog Security lists one Ignition wire, two Starter wires and two Accessory wires.  Use your DMM or test light to verify.  Either way, if you power all listed wires, you will need an extra relay becuase the Viper can only directly power 4 outputs.  Have you programmed and used the Flex Relay output, H3/7, yet?

If you find that the Bulldog info is correct and use the Flex relay for ACC2, then the extra 30/40A SPDT relay would be used for the second Starter wire.  Connect as follows:
Relay Pin 85 to Viper Remote start auxiliary output, 5-pin, Violet wire (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT.
Relay Pins 86 and 87 to +12v constant fused to 20A
Relay Pin 30 to Maxima BLACK/ Blue Starter2 wire
Relay Pin 87a not used - insulate

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Hey Kreg, I'm going to try the Flex Relay today. By your description above, am i just going to wire up pin 30 and tap it into BLACK/ blue wire of Starter2 without spiting the wire? or do I Split BLACK/ blue wire to Ign. side (87a) and Starter side (30).

I'm not sure I'm understanding.  The "Flex Relay" is part of the Viper ( built in).  H3/2 is its' Pin 87, H3/7 is its' Pin 30 and H3/8 is its' Pin 87a. And, while it can be used as Starter2, the previous post uses an "Extra Relay" for the Starter2 and the Vipers' Flex Relay for ACC2.

If you are referring to the "extra relay"  for the Starter2 circuit detailed in the earlier post, just tap Pin 30 into to BLACK/ Blue wire.  The starter kill is done with the cut BLACK/ Red starter wire.  For the cars' Accessory2 circuit, connect H3/2 to +12v constant, H3/7 to the cars ACC2 and set the Menu 3, Menu Item 8 to Option 2 for ACC2. 

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Great! I'll try it today and let you know if it worked. Thanks in advance for your help.