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viper 5701 on toyota 4runner 1995

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 19, 2024 at 2:06 PM


Topic: viper 5701 on toyota 4runner 1995

Posted By: lochuynh2700
Subject: viper 5701 on toyota 4runner 1995
Date Posted: November 14, 2010 at 9:47 PM

Can someone please help me on this alarm system, Viper 5701, on a Toyota 4runner?

I"m really stuck on the Heavy gauge (H3), Relay out, and H2. I'm not sure what a flex relay and how to connect it? I'm trying to research as much as possible but i'm still stuck. I'll appreciate anyone taking their time to reply.

Thanks!



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 15, 2010 at 6:57 AM

The Viper supplies one Starter, one Accessory and one Ignition output from the H3 harness.  All of these outputs are (+) and capable of 30A draw.  The Viper also has a extra, selectable output called the Flex Relay.  Depending on the cars needs, you can use this extra output to supply a ACC2, Starter2 or an IGN2.  The Vipers' Flex Relay output comes defaulted to IGN2.  You can change this to ACC2 or Starter2 by changing Menu 3, Menu Item 8. 

Going by the Bulldog Security wire listing, this is a general idea of the ignition wire connections for your 1995 4Runner.
All wires should be verified with a DigitalMulti Meter.
Bulldog Security : https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.asp

1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT                                                                                  BLACK / YELLOW
2 RED / WHITE (30A) FUSED IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87                                  White or WHITE/ Red
3 ORANGE ACCESSORY OUTPUT                                                                                        Blue/Red
4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL WIRE)              Black    car side
5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL WIRE)                  Black    key side
6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT                                                                        White or WHITE/ Red
7 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT                                                    BLACK / YELLOW (or BLACK/ Red)
8 PINK/BLACK FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A key side (if required) of FLEX RELAY           N.U.
9 RED / BLACK FUSED (30A) ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT                                        White or WHITE/ Red
10 N/C                                                                                                                                         N/C
 



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Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: November 15, 2010 at 10:13 PM

Do you think I need a "ignition 2"? what is the difference between 1 and 2?

Thanks for the reply





Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 16, 2010 at 2:50 AM

Yes, connect the IGN2 circuit.  I do not have the cars' wiring diagrams to tell you what IGN2 actually supplies power to, but being as the Viper comes all set up to handle IGN2 with no programming or extra parts, I would connect it.  For some reason, Toyota engineers designed the vehicles circuit that way, perhaps for load balancing or seperation.    It's only one more wire to locate, verify and solder.

The goal of installing a remote starter in any vehicle, is to allow it to start and run the exact same way it would if it was started with a key.  ( On certain GM vehicles, not connecting the IGN2 wire will cause transmission damage.)



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Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: November 19, 2010 at 10:21 PM
so part of the viper diagram goes like this:

pink ignition 1(+) output- also ignition sense input "where would this go"
RED / white fused 30a (contact 87 of RS Flex relay) "RS relay? and which ignition?"
orange accessory output "where would this go??"
violet starter output (car side of starter wire)
green starter input (key side of starter wire)
Red 12V(+) constant fused 30a input (for ignition relay)
pink/white flex relay output (default is ignition2) "flex relay? default ignition 2?"
pink/black flex relay contact 87a (default is ignition 2) "is the one above the same thing?"
RED / black fused 30a(for accessory and starter relay) "where would this one go?"

Please help




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 20, 2010 at 2:06 AM
Have you not actually read Kreg's posts? He's actually telling you which wire colour on the vehicle to connect to. This is now therefore a trained Monkey job, a no brainer. You could also try reading the Viper install guide properly then you wouldn't be asking those questions in your last post.

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Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: November 20, 2010 at 8:07 PM
Thanks Howie,

I tried looking up the remote start aux output, 5 pin and I can't figure out how to connect these.

1. Pink/white (-)200 mA FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT
2. orange     (-)200 ma ACCESSORY OUTPUT
3. Violet     (-)200 mA STARTER OUTPUT
4. pink       (-)200 mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT
5. Blue       (-)200 mA STATUS OUTPUT

thanks




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 20, 2010 at 8:26 PM
You should not need any of these for the installation on your 95 4Runner.  It does not need a bypass module or have a Factory Alarm and it has enough outputs on the H3 connector to handle all of the 4Runners ignition circuits.

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Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: November 20, 2010 at 8:39 PM
oh really? thanks!

I don't know how to connect this part.

WHITE/ Brown Flex parkiing light relay 87A
WHITE/ Parking light output 30

how would I connect this?

thanks




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 20, 2010 at 8:51 PM

The WHITE/ Brown is not used for your application.

The H1/11 White Parking Light output would go to either the RED / Black (-) Parking Light wire in the cars steering column or the Green (+) Parking Light wire in the Driver Kick Panel, your choice.   Of course, depending on your choice, you would need the set the Vipers Parking Light Jumper to the corresponding setting.



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Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: November 20, 2010 at 9:04 PM
ok Kreg, I got that part but you mention something about "set the Vipers Parking Light Jumper to the corresponding setting?" How can I set this up? I tried both of them and it the parking light didn't flash.

Thanks!




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 20, 2010 at 9:14 PM
Did you connect H1/2 to +12v constant power?  Download the 5701 Install Guide found in the "Downloads" section of this site. ( It may not be exactly the same as you unit.  They combined two harness' together.)  On Page 55 is the info on the Parking Light jumper settings.  The 5701 install guide has alot of important information and you should become very familiar with it. 

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Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: November 20, 2010 at 9:58 PM
it was the fused o.o, I got that the parking light to work now




Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: November 20, 2010 at 10:03 PM
So the only problems now is that whenever I open the door while it's lock, the siren won't go off and I can't seem to get the remote start to work. I connect everything you posted for the H3 wires.

Is there anything that could be possibly wrong?

Thanks!




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 20, 2010 at 10:43 PM

Plenty of things.  Did you download and read the Viper 5701 manual? 

The Viper comes defaulted for Manual Transmission Mode.  You must change the programming to Automatic Trans.  Menu 3, Menu Item 1 to Option 2.

The most reliable method of remote starting the car is via TACH mode.  Connect the Vipers' Violet/White TACH wire to a tach signal source and change Menu 3, Menu Item 2 to Option 4.  Read the Viper Install guide to perform the Tach Learn process. 

The  BLACK/ White Neutral Safety Wire should be connected to chassis ground or the (-) Parking Brake wire.

As for the Alarm, did you connect the Viper (-) Door Trigger, H1/8, to the car.  Should go to  All Door Trigger     BLACK/ WHITE  (-)      26 PIN PLUG in DRIVERS KICK PANEL.  You will need this connected to get into the Vipers' programming.



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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 21, 2010 at 12:59 AM
Isn't experience a heady power Kreg, especially when it gives you the power of prediction.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: November 21, 2010 at 2:16 PM
Kreg, Yes I have the manual... I have connected everything that you posted in the last post. I tried to change the setting from manual transmission to automatic and there's no luck. Right now, my car isn't even starting when I put the key and set it to run....




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 21, 2010 at 2:58 PM
Should we take a weekend break to Texas (all expenses paid for by the poster)? Or should I just ask which way round he connected the heavy duty green and violet.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: November 21, 2010 at 3:03 PM
I disconnected everything between the viper and Toyota. I reinstalled the factory alarm, seems like the alarm is going off every time I connect it. Is there a way to reset everything?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 21, 2010 at 3:56 PM
Try re-installing with the ignition turned on, then take yourself to a local installation specialist and pay to have it installed professionally.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: November 22, 2010 at 8:05 PM
Howard,

I tried to re-install the factory alarm with the ignition set to on. Right now whenever I insert the key in the ignition, it will crank and the alarm goes off, but it won't let me start. Is there anyway I can get the 4runner starting?

Thanks





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