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06 high lander and bulldog rs1200

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 25, 2024 at 4:05 PM


Topic: 06 high lander and bulldog rs1200

Posted By: wyciwug
Subject: 06 high lander and bulldog rs1200
Date Posted: November 20, 2010 at 10:01 AM

Hello

I just finished with installing bulldog security RS1200 for my 06 High Lander.  When I plugged in the 12 volts power to the fused red wires.  The RS start clicking and flashing the parking light fast.  I followed the instruction to clear the memory for the RS but the Remote control will not response.  I also Apply 12volts to the parking brake wire (or pressed the brake pedal down) and ground the hood pin (or remove the hood pin and touched it to Ground body of the car) and press any button on the remote, it still is not responding. 

Does anyone have any experience with this and what is the solution?

Thanks,



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Posted By: wyciwug
Date Posted: November 20, 2010 at 11:50 AM

These are the wires I connected.  Just for basic remote start.

Ignition 1 RS White to Car Gray @ Ignition harness

Ignition 2 RS WHITE/ red to Car Green Second ignition @ ignition harness.

12Volt Fused RS Red to Car White wire @ ignition harness

12 Volt Fused RS Red to Car Yellow wire @ ignition harness

Starter/Crank RS Yellow/Black to Car BLACK/ White @ ignition harness and Car Back at ignition harness

ACCESSORY /HEATER blower RS WHITE/ Black to Car Blue @ ignition harness

Brake input +: RS Blue/black to Car Black wire at Brake switch

FASD Output -: RS RED / Black to Keysense

Ground -: RS Black to Car body metal.

Tach input -: RS BLACK/ white to ECM's black wire top plug

Hood Pin Input -: RS BLACK/ Blue to Hood pin.

Parking Light +: RS Brown to Car White to Brown at Driver kick Pin 8 @ 20pin plug.



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 20, 2010 at 1:06 PM

The wiring looks  OK, but you really should get a relay and an inline fuse to create a Starter2 output for the cars second starter wire. 

Two things:

1.)  The clicking is normal.  Here is the resolve from Bulldog, although it seems you might have tried it already:  Double check your brake (+) connection and the hood pin (-) connection and the RS1200 antenna connection.

IF YOUR REMOTE STARTER IS CLICKING AND/OR FLASHING THE PARKING LIGHTS AND IS NOT RESPONDING TO THE REMOTE, IT IS IN SAFE MODE AND NEEDS TO BE INITIALIZED BY DOING THE FOLLOWING:

If you have a 4 button remote, you must ground the BLACK/ blue hood pin wire (raise hood if hood switch is installed). Apply 12volts to blue/black brake wire (press and hold brake pedal if wire is installed). Press and hold any button on your remote until clicking and flashing stops. Unit will now respond to the remote. Remove ground from hood pin wire and voltage from brake wire. If you have a 2 button remote, hold brake and press any button on the remote until clicking and flashing stops.

2.)  After you get that resolved, what type of bypass did you use?



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Posted By: wyciwug
Date Posted: November 20, 2010 at 1:58 PM

I do not use by Pass because the car's key is not a computer chipped one.  Just a plain metal key will start the car just fine.

Relay and an inline fuse to create a Starter2 output for the cars second starter wire < the instruction on the installation manual saying I can connect that RS starter wire to the two wires on the car.  But if i need the relay for this.  Do you have the diagram for me to wire the relay together?  Thanks.

The most thing im worried now is the clicking and flashing of the remote start. 



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 20, 2010 at 3:16 PM

The clicking and flashing when you first put the fuses in is a safety feature Bulldog Security built into the RS1200.  It ensures that you have a Hood pin installed & giving a good ground and that you connected the RS1200s' Brake wire to the cars brake wire properly.   Removes the liability of an improperly installed unit from them to you.

Most Toyotas have an immobilizer.  You got lucky and saved some time & money.

While it has been done, connecting one remote starter output to two wires on the cars ignition can cause problems.  Being as you are not using the GWR wire from the RS1200, it will be easy to add the extra relay for the second starter wire.  Get a 30/40A SPDT relay, an inline fuse holder and a 20A fuse.  Wire as follows.

Relay Pin 85 to RS1200 White (-) Security Bypass Output

Relay Pin 87 to inline fuse to +12v constant ( White or Yellow ) at cars ignition harness

Relay Pin 86 to RS1200 Yellow/Black Starter Output

Relay Pin 30 to cars Second Starter wire (Black)

Relay Pin 87a     not used - insulate.



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Posted By: wyciwug
Date Posted: November 20, 2010 at 6:34 PM

Here is what I tried to stop the clicking.

I connect the BLACK/ blue wire to the car's metal body (same as lifting up the hood).  Then depress the brake pedal (I tested to make sure that I got the brake wire connected right by using the test light-when i depress the brake pedal, the test light bulb lits up).  So I made sure i got good connection there.   With the door closed, I depress the brake and ground the hood pin.  Press any button on the 4button remote.  It will not respond.   Did I do something wrong here?



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 20, 2010 at 6:56 PM
Try this.  Remove the two RS1200 30A fuses for 10 minutes.  Ground the Hood Pin wire and jumper the Brake wire to +12v constant.  Make sure the RS1200 FOB's little red light comes on strong & steady when you press a button. Verify the antenna is plugged in properly.   Insert the two fuses, the lights should start blinking,  then  press and hold the Start button.  The parking lights should stop blinking.

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Posted By: wyciwug
Date Posted: November 21, 2010 at 9:04 PM
I tried today and it still click fast.  By the way, this unit has no antenna.  I removed the unit and let it sit for the whole night, not just 10 minutes.  Still not working.  So weird.

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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 21, 2010 at 9:55 PM

I could have sworn that the RS1200 has a seperate plug in connector for the extended range antenna.  Here is a Bulldog Quick wiring guide for the RS1200 :  https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/newsite/pictures/pdfs/RS-1200E%20BLUE%20MANUAL%20INSTAL.pdf   Lower left corner.

The RS1100 has the short Yellow wire on the main connector for the antenna...



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Posted By: wyciwug
Date Posted: November 22, 2010 at 7:32 AM

I know, i've seen it with antenna but I think it's for probably different version for a different country.  But if you look at this manual of the RS1200 series you will not see the antenna plug anywhere.

https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/manualsnew/RS1200.pdf



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 22, 2010 at 8:35 AM

Strange.  I have used the RS1100 with the Yellow wire antenna on the 16 Pin connector.  But the RS1200's I have used all had an external antenna from a seperate connector that ran all the way to the windshield.  Even the old RS112's had an external antenna.  The unit has power and ground ( it flashed the Parking Lights ), you grounded the hood pin wire and put +12v to the brake wire and the remote transmitters battery looks good.  The only thing left is the antenna, a bad remote or a bad brain. 

I have found that Bulldogs tech support is good and they do honor their lifetime warranty.



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Posted By: wyciwug
Date Posted: November 22, 2010 at 9:02 AM

I have another identical RS1200 brand new.  So I used that brain and/or remote controls to make sure the other brain or remote controls are not bad.  They gave same problem.  So I am not sure if it is my installation or this kind of RS has problems when they got out of the manufacturer.  Maybe it's an error that they forgot to add antenna to the brain.



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 22, 2010 at 9:27 AM

You should be able to do this on the table top.  Just connect the 2 red power connections and the ground wire to a +12v battery..  Then attach the Brake wire to the +12v battery and the hood pin to ground.  Put you meter on the Parking Light output ( but you will hear the relay anyway ) and plug in the 2 fuses.  While they says press and hold any button, the older instructions say press the start button. 

I had a Bulldog 791 bypass module where they forgot to put the  antenna connector pins on the PCB.  I just soldered the antenna loop on to the PCB...



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Posted By: wyciwug
Date Posted: November 23, 2010 at 12:24 PM

I finally turn the clicking off using Remote control after untaped the yellow wire.  It is infact the antenna.  I contacted Bulldog and pointed out the error on their manual but they do not want to admit it (on the phone or in email). 

Now it is time for me to program the remote controls to start the car.  I did not connect the door lock/unlock wires because I can use the remote comes with the car.  Any lead on where to start to program it?  Thanks.



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 23, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Not a whole lot to program. 

It comes set for 15 minute run time.   That is pretty much the standard runtime.

It comes set to tachless operation.  If your car has "one touch start", that sholud be fine.  ( One touch start is where you can turn the key to Start and release it immediately, the car will continue to crank until the engine is started.)  If you don't have this feature, switch to Tach Mode, connect the Tach wire and do the Tach Learn process.

The standard length lock / unlock pulse is fine.  Did you get the relays and diodes and connect the door locks in the drivers door?  https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/diagrams/extrainfo/diagrams/14301_HIGHLANDER_TOYOTA%20and%20LEXUS%20door%20lock%20.pdf   If so, then you will want to change the unlock to double pulse to unlock all doors at once.

Most people don't use the auto lock / unlock feature.  The car should already have this built in.

Unless you live in Alaska, you probably won't use the Cold Start feature.

Make sure you set the jumpers to the correct position for the Parking Lights and Dome Light Supervision ( if used ).



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Posted By: wyciwug
Date Posted: November 23, 2010 at 1:31 PM

Kreg

I did not connect the door lock/unlock harness on the alarm because I just want to use the SUV's remote FOB control to unlock doors.   So no diodes or Relay involved.  I completely unplug that connector from the alarm.

I turned off the clicking using the remote after grounded the hoodpin and 12volt the Brake wire.  Then after the clicking stop, I connect these wires to appropriate car's wires which is at the brake switch and to  the hood pin.  I press the button on the remote start's remote to start the car.  There is no response and the lights are not flashing.  Do I have to program the remote controls to be recognized by the brain of the unit?

Thanks



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 23, 2010 at 2:15 PM

How many remotes do you have?  I thought the RS1200 came with 2.  The one you used to stop the clicking should be programmed.  If not then you have to do the Clear Memory routine on Page 20.  Then add the second remote.

I might have bad news for you on the door locks.  Most Toyotas turn off the Factory Keyless Entry while the car s running.  That means the Factory FOB's won't work while the car is running under remote start.  If that's the case, you will want to connect the RS1200 to the locks.

Using the short Yellow antenna on the 16 Pin harness will give you half the range of the windshield antenna, only 400 feet.



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Posted By: wyciwug
Date Posted: November 23, 2010 at 2:26 PM

I probably extend the yellow antenna wire and runs it to the windshield. 

I did the clear Eprom last night also.  Then the clicking came back.  Then I turn it off using remote control but after that, it does not do anything else. 
This frustrates me.

 Maybe I can ask you for the RS1100 that has the antenna you have.  Thanks.



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