smartstart with chrysler xpresskit chall
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: smartstart with chrysler xpresskit chall
Posted By: vandne
Subject: smartstart with chrysler xpresskit chall
Date Posted: November 21, 2010 at 3:43 PM
Hi,
I have installed a Python 2 way remote start in a 2010 Dodge Ram using the Chrysler XpressKit and Chall to interface to the factory wiring. This is all working fine, but now I am adding a SmartStart module and have run into an issue:
From what I can tell, the SmartStart module hooks into the Chall module using the 4 pin D2D port, the problem is, this is also where the Xpresskit hooks into. How do I hook all 3 components together? Is there a Y cable that allows all 3 modules to be hooked into the D2D ports? If so, would it work if I just piggybacked onto the wiring going from the xpresskit to the Chall for the Smartstart module?
The SmartStart install manual only shows how to connect this either directly to Chall, or directly to an expresskit, but not using all 3.
Any help is appreciated! Thank you in advance.
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Posted By: mpe235
Date Posted: November 21, 2010 at 5:20 PM
I have never installed one of these but according to the manual I found online the connection to the remote start is made with the 3 pin bitwriter plug and not the 4 pin D2D.
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Nissan Master Tech.
Posted By: vandne
Date Posted: November 21, 2010 at 5:56 PM
Thank you for the reply. Can you direct me to the manual you found? It sounds like it has much more detail than the one I am using, maybe it can help me sort this out.
Thanks again.
Posted By: mpe235
Date Posted: November 21, 2010 at 5:59 PM
Posted By: blanx218
Date Posted: November 21, 2010 at 10:43 PM
What model Python do you have? Im a DEI dealer and have full access to the diagrams. Once you give me the model of the R/S I can tell you where to plug it in. There may also be a possibility that the CHALL would need to be hardwired.
Posted By: dodgeram10
Date Posted: November 22, 2010 at 12:45 AM
vandne wrote:
Hi,
I have installed a Python 2 way remote start in a 2010 Dodge Ram using the Chrysler XpressKit and Chall to interface to the factory wiring. This is all working fine, but now I am adding a SmartStart module and have run into an issue:
From what I can tell, the SmartStart module hooks into the Chall module using the 4 pin D2D port, the problem is, this is also where the Xpresskit hooks into. How do I hook all 3 components together? Is there a Y cable that allows all 3 modules to be hooked into the D2D ports? If so, would it work if I just piggybacked onto the wiring going from the xpresskit to the Chall for the Smartstart module?
The SmartStart install manual only shows how to connect this either directly to Chall, or directly to an expresskit, but not using all 3.
Any help is appreciated! Thank you in advance.
My viper 5901 remote start connects to my smartstart module using the 5901's bitwriter port . Something about your install just doesnt sound right . First of all a chall is a xpresskit . You state you have a chall connected to a xpresskit .
Why on earth would you connect 2 xpresskit modules ? I have a 2010 ram also & only the chall is needed . It does the bypass & door locks which makes me wonder why you would connect 2 xpresskit modules .
Your remote start should connect to your challs D2D port & the smartstart connects to the remote starts bitwriter port if done correctly .
Posted By: morfiusx
Date Posted: December 02, 2010 at 9:26 AM
Anyone figure this out. I bought a VSS5000 (SmartStart plus Security) which has a 4 pin Smart Start connector.
From what I can tell, this plugs into the d2d port of the brain, but I need that port for the DB-ALL.
Here is a pic:
Posted By: leebunn79
Date Posted: December 02, 2010 at 10:03 AM
I had this issue the other day, Directed said that the Smart Start has to be plugged in the D2D port and I had to wire the interface module wire for wire.
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Lee Bunn
Posted By: morfiusx
Date Posted: December 02, 2010 at 11:13 AM
I found this document:
https://directed.com/smartstart/blackberry/Documents/QRNDSM200_2010-08_web.pdf
It seems to suggest the both the SmartStart module and a bypass module can run in D2D mode. My DB-ALL hasn't arrived yet, but I will check to see if it comes with a Y cable.
Posted By: leebunn79
Date Posted: December 02, 2010 at 2:14 PM
Dirtectechs said you cannot split or Y the D2D connection!
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Lee Bunn
Posted By: blanx218
Date Posted: December 02, 2010 at 8:55 PM
My DSM200 is connected to the bitwriter port on my Clifford RSX3.5. When talking to DEI tech they said if you plug it into the bitwriter port on just about any system it will work. you can tell if you connect it and have a solid green light on the smart start. if your green light is flashing or not on it will not work
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: December 03, 2010 at 4:34 PM
usually the Smart Start module plugs into the 3 pin black Bitwriter port and the Chall (or any bypass module) plugs into the 4 pin brown D2D port......
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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: leebunn79
Date Posted: December 04, 2010 at 9:26 AM
the new vss4000 only has one port... bitwriter and D2D are one
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Lee Bunn
Posted By: infamouslink
Date Posted: January 01, 2011 at 8:14 PM
any update on the 5901 with the DB-All and smartstart system?
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