viper 5301, 1999 subaru outback

While waiting on my Viper 5301 to arrive, I decided to plan the connections as much as I could. I posted a PDF of the connections I intend to make and what I intend to leave unconnected. I marked in orange where I still have questions to answer.

Any comments/confirmations/criticisms on my Connection List
appreciated.

Thanks,
Wally

1999 Subaru Legacy Outback, (broken) factory keyless entry, (non-working) factory alarm

Possible issues:

1.) The (-)Unlock is White, not RED / White.

2.) FACTORY ALARM DISARM               GREEN/ LIGHT BLUE (-)                        IN DRIVERS KICK PANEL. 

3.) The RED / Blue Parking Light wire is (+).  There is also a  PARKING LIGHTS ( - )              BLACK/ GREEN (-)             @ HEADLIGHT SWITCH.

As always, these wire listing guides are just that, a guide.  It is best to test and verify all connections.

Everything else looked good.  The only other step is programming the Viper to Tach Mode ( required to MTS mode )
and doing the Tach learn.  Depending on which Parking Light wire you use, set the Viper Parking Light jumper accordingly.

-------------
Soldering is fun!

Thanks. I haven't actually looked at any of the wiring yet - I will definitely confirm everything with multimeter as I go.

I was going to use the tach mode for engine monitoring, but I am really considering using automatic mode IF I am able to get a good neutral indication from ECM. Actually, I'll also look for parking brake switch (even though just a lightly-applied parking brake will still close it).

Thanks,
Wally

Tach mode is the most reliable way to start the car.  I agree that dealing with  "Reservation Mode"  is a pain but having the car start in gear can have very serious consequences. 

-------------
Soldering is fun!

I'm pretty sure that there's a neutral safety terminal on the engine management. You could run the Viper as an auto. Test by trying to key start the car in gear.

-------------
Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Viper 5301 says neutral safety not ground, but it is. Viper 5301 in 1999 Subaru Legacy Outback. Locks work fine. Remote start with 2-way remote emits error tone and flashes lights 8 times - Neutral Safety Switch not grounded or not on. I verified it is on and even connected it directly to ground - still 8 flashes.

Thanks,
Wally

Remote start input- 5 pin connector, BLACK/ white must be to ground.  Do you have the toggle switch plugged in and in the ON position?

-------------
When all else fails, Read the Instructions
Support the12volt.com Make a Donation

Duh - I didn't have the toggle switch on...sigh. Thanks!

Yeah, I know.    I did it myself once.     Didn't forget on my subsequent installs.

-------------
When all else fails, Read the Instructions
Support the12volt.com Make a Donation

Viper 5301 no auto defogger below 55, but I can turn it on with the remote (func x 4, start). So, the 5301 can turn it on, just doesn't do it below 55 automatically. I have started car when it is 25 degrees out and it still doesn't turn on the defroster automatically - I am reasonably sure it was <55 in the car.

I've looked over the owner's manual, programming stuff in install manual - can't figure this one out.

Viper 5301
1999 Subaru Legacy Outback

Thanks,
Wally

Have you tried to change Menu 3. Item 11 to latched or Pulse and see what happens?  How is the remote starter connected to your rear window defroster?

-------------
When all else fails, Read the Instructions
Support the12volt.com Make a Donation

Yes, well, I set it to pulsed. It connects to the defogger timer. It basically performs the same function as the momentary switch that turns the defogger on - it grounds it momentarily.

Again, I can turn the defogger on with the remote by pressing f button 4 times and then the remote start button. So the 5301 can turn the defogger on with no problem. It just doesn't do it automatically when it is below 55F in the car - which is what it looks like it is supposed to do. I could not find anything programming-wise that affects that part of the function.

Thanks,
Wally

That is kind of puzzeling? I have three 5301 in my vehicles here and the all come on automatically.  One is pulsed from the dash button, 2000 taurus, and one is through a relay right to the wire in the drivers sill, bypassing the dash button, 1998 Cavalier.  My wifes car, I don't know. I did not do that install.

All three work as they should when below 55 degrees. maybe your 5301 has a defect. 

Anyone else have a thought??

-------------
When all else fails, Read the Instructions
Support the12volt.com Make a Donation

I guess it just wasn't cold enough where the unit was located. The last 2 times I've gotten in the car after remote starting, the defroster has been on.

Thanks,
Wally