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Avital 4103 Remote Start

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Topic: Avital 4103 Remote Start

Posted By: jakfrost84
Subject: Avital 4103 Remote Start
Date Posted: December 15, 2010 at 5:21 PM

Hello everyone I hope helps me. I have a 2009 trailblazer I will be installing on the weekend. My parts list consist of:
1. Avital 4103 Remote start
2. XK09 Bypass
3. standard 5 pin relay

I will be using the d2d wire supplied.

I have been researching this install for a little bit and just want someone to look over my wiring diagram.

H1/1: (-)Factory alarm disarm - N/A
H1/2: (-)Factory rearm - N/A
H1/3: (+)Ignition out (to alarm) - Wondering if this is needed and to where
H1/4: (-)Activation Input - Wondering if this is needed and to where
H1/5: (-)Ground when locked - Wondering if this is needed and to where
H1/6: (-)Horn Output - To horn wire under column
H1/7: (-)Trunk Release Output - N/A
H1/8: Ground - To common ground
H1/9: (+/-) Light Flash - Headlight switch

4-pin satellite harness
1: (-)Status Output - wired to XK09
2: (-) Accessory Output - wired to XK09
3: (-) Starter Output - wired XK09
4: (-) Ignition Output - wired to XK09 also wired to ignition circuit

Heavy gauge relay wiring
1: (-) Output to Ignition Circuit - to ignition wire
2: (-) Output to Starter Circuit - to starter wire
3: (-) Output to Accessory Circuit - to accessory wire
4: (-) (30A) High Current 12 Input - to 12v common
5: (-) Programmable output for accessory or ignition - for 2nd accessory wired with relay
6: (-) (30A) High Current 12 Input - to 12v common

Door lock harness
1: (-) Unlock output - to XK09
2: N/A
3: (-) Unlock output - to XK09

Remote start harness (H2)
H2/1: (-) Neutral safety switch input - N/A
H2/2: Tachometer wire - to XK09
H2/3: (+) Brake switch shutdown - Brake wire at pedal
H2/4: (-) Hood pin switch - to hood pin switch
H2/5 (-) 200ma 2nd status/rear defogger output - Wondering if this will turn the rear defroster on which I would like to use but not sure where to wire it.

Please look over to make sure I'm on the right track. I know I still need to get the firmware update for the XK09.




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Posted By: dcman41
Date Posted: December 15, 2010 at 9:50 PM

H1/1: (-)Factory alarm disarm - N/A
H1/2: (-)Factory rearm - N/A
H1/3: (+)Ignition out (to alarm) - Connect to Pink wire on Heavy Gauge harness
H1/4: (-)Activation Input - N/A
H1/5: (-)Ground when locked - N/A Optionally used for anti grind relay
H1/6: (-)Horn Output - To horn wire under column
H1/7: (-)Trunk Release Output - N/A
H1/8: Ground - To common ground
H1/9: (+/-) Light Flash - Headlight switch

4-pin satellite harness
1: (-)Status Output - wired to XK09
2: (-) Accessory Output - n/a
3: (-) Starter Output - n/a
4: (-) Ignition Output - n/a

Heavy gauge relay wiring
1: (-) Output to Ignition Circuit - to ignition wire
2: (-) Output to Starter Circuit - to starter wire
3: (-) Output to Accessory Circuit - to accessory wire
4: (-) (30A) High Current 12 Input - to 12v common
5: (-) Programmable output for accessory or ignition - for 2nd accessory wired with relay
6: (-) (30A) High Current 12 Input - to 12v common

Door lock harness
1: (-) Unlock output - to XK09
2: N/A
3: (-) Unlock output - to XK09

Remote start harness (H2)
H2/1: (-) Neutral safety switch input - GROUND
H2/2: Tachometer wire - to XK09
H2/3: (+) Brake switch shutdown - Brake wire at pedal
H2/4: (-) Hood pin switch - to hood pin switch
H2/5 (-) 200ma 2nd status/rear defogger output - N/A.. Requires optional relay

As far as i know those should be the connections you need to make.




Posted By: graywire
Date Posted: January 09, 2011 at 2:26 AM

Hello

Ok, dcman41 thank you for your post, no wonder why I had no crank on my 2000 chevy Impala.

I installed the Avital 4103 with an xk01 but I didn't get the starter to work (engine does not start) I see that I failed to connect the H1/3 wire to Pink wire on heavy harness and also the status output wire is not connected to xk01, that should help.

Thank you.



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Millenium Chevy Impala.




Posted By: graywire
Date Posted: January 15, 2011 at 11:39 PM

Hello all

I finally got my Avital4103 to remote start my 2000 Chevy Impala with the help of a xk01 D2D

and it works good, the problem? 4103's status output wire not connected to xk01 status input.

Thanks.



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Millenium Chevy Impala.




Posted By: eszd
Date Posted: September 26, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Hello All,

This is my is first post. I,ll start by saying this is an awsome site, tons of information. My problem is, I'm attemting to install the Avital 4103 w/ the xk01 on a '05 Silverado 3500 6.6 Duramax. I have tried all suggestions (H1/3 wire to Pink wire on heavy harness ,4103's status output wire to xk01 status input) no iet the itialize or start. I can however get the lights and horn to work using the lock and unlock buttons. I have installed 3 Bulldog remote starters, never had a problem untill the remotes were destroyed. Is there an initialization process(that is not explained)? could it be in a " limp mode"?

All suggestion very much appreciated, Thanks



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E Decker




Posted By: enice
Date Posted: September 26, 2011 at 11:01 PM
did you connect the thin BLACK/ white wire to ground?
Does the car even try to attempt to start?




Posted By: eszd
Date Posted: September 28, 2011 at 7:46 PM

No i did not connect the BLACK/ white wire, but i will. 

 It does not try to start or even initialize.

Thanks.



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E Decker




Posted By: graywire
Date Posted: September 29, 2011 at 2:07 AM
Hi eszd, looks like in fact you missed the ground wire/s there is one in the H1 wire harness (H1/8) and there is also neutral safety switch input (Remote start harness H2/1) which is connected in line with toggle switch, if this wire is not connected the RS will not initialize.
Don't forget to close the hood if you have hood pin switch installed.
Hope this helps 8D

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Millenium Chevy Impala.




Posted By: eszd
Date Posted: October 02, 2011 at 5:50 PM

The neutral safety switch was the answer. Plus it works better than it read it would. All 4 doors lock/unlock no extra connections.

You Guys are awesome. I really appreciate all your help. Thanks





Posted By: asb2106
Date Posted: October 18, 2011 at 9:50 AM
Hey guys, I am new to the threads here, but not to to 12volt. Been using the resources here for YEARS now for diagrams and installation guides. I've ran into some troubles and hoping I could get the communities help :)

While searching through the forum i found a recent topic very similar to mine, so i figured i would just post, here.


I have done a few installs before, a 98 grand prix, '05 kia spectra, 91 TSI Talon, 95 TSI talon, and others. This truck is giving me quite the headache tho! (also this is the first time using a directed project)

Thanks in advance for any advice or help, its really greatly appreciated.

1. Avital 4103 Remote start
2. 94 GMC Sonoma
I have no relays or bypass modules.

Currently I get nothing from the start feature on the remote.

The door look buttons will activate a light on the avital unit and will click a relay or something in the device, and lights flash on the car, but the door locks dont move (i didnt lock them and test unlock yet - will do today on lunch; only tested lock when unlocked)

But I DID get response from the remote, so i feel its grounded ok, etc, somethings just not hooked up right for the starter to work.

Might this help me? - H1/3: (+)Ignition out (to alarm) - Connect to Pink wire on Heavy Gauge harness

AND what about this wire, does it need to be sent a ground pulse? - H1/4: (-)Activation Input - N/A


H1/1: (-)Factory alarm disarm - NOT HOOKED UP
H1/2: (-)Factory rearm - NOT HOOKED UP
H1/3: (+)Ignition out (to alarm) - NOT HOOKED UP
H1/4: (-)Activation Input - NOT HOOKED UP
H1/5: (-)Ground when locked - NOT HOOKED UP
H1/6: (-)Horn Output - Ran to black horn wire in column
H1/7: (-)Trunk Release Output - NOT HOOKED UP
H1/8: Ground - tapped ground on column
H1/9: (+/-) Light Flash - tapped switch harness

4-pin satellite harness
1: (-)Status Output - NOT HOOKED UP
2: (-) Accessory Output - NOT HOOKED UP
3: (-) Starter Output - NOT HOOKED UP
4: (-) Ignition Output - NOT HOOKED UP

Heavy gauge relay wiring
1: (-) Output to Ignition Circuit - to heavy pink
2: (-) Output to Starter Circuit - to heavy purple
3: (-) Output to Accessory Circuit - to heavy orange that tested acc
4: (-) (30A) High Current 12 Input - to heavy red in column
5: (-) Programmable output for accessory or ignition - NOT HOOKED UP
6: (-) (30A) High Current 12 Input - to heavy red in column

Door lock harness
1: (-) Unlock output - black and white in kick panel
2: N/A
3: (-) Unlock output - light blue in kick panel

Remote start harness (H2)
H2/1: (-) Neutral safety switch input - directly grounded, no switch.
H2/2: Tachometer wire - to white wire at coil
H2/3: (+) Brake switch shutdown - to white wire at brake switch
H2/4: (-) Hood pin switch - NOT HOOKED UP
H2/5 (-) 200ma 2nd status/rear defogger output - NOT HOOKED UP





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Tony B

The road to success is always under construction. - Lily Tomlin




Posted By: asb2106
Date Posted: October 18, 2011 at 9:56 AM
Here is the download link to the install manual

https://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/IG/Avital/N4103_2008-07_web.pdf

On page 16 they talk about the h1/4 wire and to ground it with a momentary switch, is that required?

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Tony B

The road to success is always under construction. - Lily Tomlin




Posted By: asb2106
Date Posted: October 18, 2011 at 10:20 AM
Oh yah, my horn doesnt work either. I tested the black wire and it tested 12v, press the horn and it drops quickly.

So im assuming im on the right one.

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Tony B

The road to success is always under construction. - Lily Tomlin




Posted By: graywire
Date Posted: October 20, 2011 at 1:47 AM

Hi asb2106

Avital 4103 remote start H1/4 wire is used to start the engine via another module like voice activated device or

using a push button or anything that applies a negative pulse to this wire. If you touch chasis ground with this wire once your RS is working, it will activate and start the engine (Programable for one or two pulse)



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Millenium Chevy Impala.





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