viper 5301 remote car start
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: July 14, 2025 at 6:53 PM
Topic: viper 5301 remote car start
Posted By: gmonde
Subject: viper 5301 remote car start
Date Posted: December 19, 2010 at 8:55 AM
i have a install question on the viper 5301 remote start, i have a 2008 toyota tacoma v6 ,,there are two wires h3/6 and h3/7 for a secondary ignition circuit ,in the manual it shows this as this a option if you have a toyota or honda ,are these to be used along with the h3/1 and h3/5 any info would be helpful with this application,also would it be required to install a start relay,,the truck has a latching start system in it already (dont have to hold it in the start postion for crank) thanks gmonde ------------- gmonde
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Posted By: tonanzith
Date Posted: December 19, 2010 at 10:58 AM
Pink goes to the BLACK/ red in your vehicle.
Red, RED / White, and RED / Black ALL go to the WHITE/ Blue in your vehicle.
Orange goes to the WHITE/ green wire in your vehicle.
Pink/White goes to the blue / YELLOW wire in your vehicle.
Violet splits and goes to the GREEN/ black AND the BLACK/ white in your vehicle.
Pink/black is NOT used.
All wires are found at the ignition harness near the steering column.
 ------------- Gary Sather
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: December 19, 2010 at 11:56 AM
The violet shouldn't be split, run a feed off to a relay thus:
Violet to 86 and GREEN/ black
Ground to status wire from 5301 (2nd if there is one if not diode away from any existing use such as a by-pass*)
Constant 20amp to 87
Output 30 to 2nd starter BLACK/ white
The reason is that the manufacturer keeps those starter leads separate for a reason, so should you!
* Make a "Y" the base is coming from the 5301.
Along each top leg insert a 1N4004 diode in-line with the bands facing the 5301.
One top leg goes to the by-pass, the other to the relay I mentioned.
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Posted By: gmonde
Date Posted: December 20, 2010 at 5:17 PM
can you sketch a diagram??? this would help out a ton,,,and thanks for your replys this will make the job painless thanks garrett
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gmonde
Posted By: gmonde
Date Posted: December 21, 2010 at 6:30 PM
can you do a sketch i am pretty sure on what your saying but just want be sure thanks garrett ------------- gmonde
Posted By: gmonde
Date Posted: January 01, 2011 at 2:37 PM
i have the viper 5301 and the xpresskit do i need the anti theft bypass modual and the use of the extra key ??? thanks garrett ------------- gmonde
Posted By: gmonde
Date Posted: January 01, 2011 at 5:30 PM
also the number on the kit is a pkall and i just found on there web site a different wire diagram that was in the manual for a 2009 toyota tacoma has any one used this product with good results thanks garrett ------------- gmonde
Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: January 01, 2011 at 7:07 PM
The PKALL is your bypass
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Posted By: gmonde
Date Posted: January 02, 2011 at 1:13 PM
i have installed the system according to instructions and all works except no remote start,followed the PKALL programing instructions and the factory antitheft system will not disarm and allow system to start,,,does the 5301 send a signal thru the disarm wire thru the door lock circuit or does the PKALL need to be flashed or programed to match the factory incryption thanks garrett
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Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: January 02, 2011 at 1:26 PM
What happens when you try to remote start? Any parking light flashes? If so, how many Flashes? Does the starter try to strart and then stop? Does it start and then quit?
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Posted By: gmonde
Date Posted: January 02, 2011 at 2:27 PM
nothing happens ,,the remote kicks back with a red beep ,,there is no attempt for start(no activation from the box),the power locks work and lights will flash when using the lock and unlock ,but no start activation ,,,,
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Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: January 02, 2011 at 3:28 PM
If your power locks are working from the Viper remote, sound like the brain is getting power from the H1/2 wire.
1. How is the H3 harness connected? List which wire you put, to what on your vehicle.
2. How is the 2nd starter and the 2 ignition connected?
3. If you remove the H3 harness from the brain, do you have 12 volts at the pins for the Red, RED / White, and RED / Black wires ??
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Posted By: gmonde
Date Posted: January 02, 2011 at 5:05 PM
i will check tomorrow ,i am done for to night but here is the layout for the h/3
Pink goes to the BLACK/ red
Red, RED / White, and RED / Black ALL go to the WHITE/ Blue
Orange goes to the WHITE/ green wire
Pink/White goes to the blue / YELLOW wire
Violet splits and goes to the GREEN/ black AND the BLACK/ white
the express pkall hooks to the key sense wire to the to pin on the ignition barrel GREEN/ black next to the white black
the data wires connect to the #4 and #5 pin on the ignition barrel
the blue/white wire is hooked to blue on the status wire,the d2d cable goes back to the remote starter ,,this seamed to program as stated in the instructions,my question is does the pkall bypass the factory antitheft from the start request from the 5301 and this would cancel out the anti theft and throught the data lines would feed back to the 5301and allow startup ??? garrett ------------- gmonde
Posted By: gmonde
Date Posted: January 02, 2011 at 5:08 PM
gmonde wrote:
i will check tomorrow ,i am done for to night but here is the layout for the h/3
Pink goes to the BLACK/ red
Red, RED / White, and RED / Black ALL go to the WHITE/ Blue
Orange goes to the WHITE/ green wire
Pink/White goes to the blue / YELLOW wire
Violet splits and goes to the GREEN/ black AND the BLACK/ white
the express pkall hooks to the key sense wire to the to pin on the ignition barrel GREEN/ black next to the white black
the data wires connect to the #4 and #5 pin on the ignition barrel
the blue/white wire is hooked to blue on the status wire,the d2d cable goes back to the remote starter ,,this seamed to program as stated in the instructions,my question is does the pkall bypass the factory antitheft from the start request from the 5301 and this would cancel out the anti theft and throught the data lines would feed back to the 5301and allow startup ??? garrett
and yes it does have the 18 pin harness with the extra aux wires garrett ------------- gmonde
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 02, 2011 at 5:53 PM
DON'T SPLIT THE VIOLET
Wire through a relay as I showed you earlier.
This will give you DESTRUCTIVE problems with your R/S and might affect start and run of the car.
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Posted By: gmonde
Date Posted: January 02, 2011 at 6:19 PM
howie ll wrote:
DON'T SPLIT THE VIOLET
Wire through a relay as I showed you earlier.
This will give you DESTRUCTIVE problems with your R/S and might affect start and run of the car.
i will add the relay as suggested ,,,i dont think this a result of the system not communicating with the bypass unit garrett ------------- gmonde
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 02, 2011 at 6:28 PM
No but if the car manufacturer uses two starters and/or ignitions and the R/S manufacturer does the same, don't you think there's a reason for following them? By-pass supposed to join the key sense wire, I thought you had to diode split the status output from the R/S to do that...I might be wrong. Check your instructions and test.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: gmonde
Date Posted: January 02, 2011 at 6:51 PM
howie ll wrote:
No but if the car manufacturer uses two starters and/or ignitions and the R/S manufacturer does the same, don't you think there's a reason for following them? By-pass supposed to join the key sense wire, I thought you had to diode split the status output from the R/S to do that...I might be wrong. Check your instructions and test.
i had checked the instructions severeal times for the bypass modual and there are no diodes mentioned or in the diagram i will double check once again it looks i will have to call the manufacture thanks for your input garrett ------------- gmonde
Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: January 02, 2011 at 7:30 PM
You should be able to use the H2/13 ~ (-) 200mA Purple Starter Output to run the relay for your Starter 2~ BLACK/ White.
H2/13 Purple to pin 85, Pin 30 to Starter 2~BLACK/ White, 12 Volts Constant to Pin 86 and 87.
Howie II, should this relay have a diode across the 85 ~ 86 pins? I am not sure about it. ------------- When all else fails, Read the Instructions
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 03, 2011 at 3:38 AM
Smokeman, according to KP they have internal diodes, I just won't take the chance.
I haven't the patience, could you explain to our friend about the key sense and dioding a status output?
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Posted By: dragonpntr
Date Posted: January 04, 2011 at 2:29 AM
Did you ground the small black with white safety neutral wire off of the viper is the toggle switch plugged in and in the on position and did you program it to automatic transmission mode and yes the security is bypassed by the module when you activate the remote start. If you have it wired D2D you should not need the status wire hooked up the D2D connection should take care of that.
Posted By: dragonpntr
Date Posted: January 04, 2011 at 2:39 AM
Ok on that one you do need the status wire.
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