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h3 wiring and tach for honda accord 02

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Topic: h3 wiring and tach for honda accord 02

Posted By: lochuynh2700
Subject: h3 wiring and tach for honda accord 02
Date Posted: December 30, 2010 at 6:55 PM

I have a Honda Accord 2002 and i'm trying to install a Clifford Matrix 3.3.

So far for the Heavy gauge wires:
pink ignition- blk yellow
RED / white- hook with 12v (white)
orange accessory- yellow or WHITE/ black
violet starter- black white was cut to do the violet and green starter
green starter- "   "
red 12v- white
pink/white flex relay (default is ignition 2)- My honda doesn't have this wire so should i ignore it?
pnk/black flex relay (default is ignition 2)- my honda doesn't have this wire so should I ignore it?
RED / black fused 30a(for accessory and starter relays)-hook with 12volt(white)

for the tach-
I was trying to find the tach connector in my car and from the wiring diagram it's suppose to be behind the battery because my car is a 4 cylinder. I found the two pin connector and tried to test it with a multimeter but it doesn't run between 1v-6v, it was much higher. Where else can I find this tach connector? I'm not sure where the distributor coil is also because the tach is suppose to be there as well.



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Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: December 31, 2010 at 8:01 AM

You will need the Pink/White for your accessory 2 if your accord has that.  The Pink/White comes defaulted as ignition 2 and you will have to change it to Accessory 2

AudioVox wiring for Tach:                NOTE: 4 CYLINDER-WHITE 31 PIN CONNECTOR E - PIN #25,  

Tachometer BLUE (AC) AT ECM

https://techservices.audiovox.com/TechnicalIndex.aspx   Sign up is Free for this link.



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Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: December 31, 2010 at 11:10 AM
I still can't find the tach. The only thing I found behind the battery is a two pin connector and it has a blue wire with a rubber boot. You think it's possible if you test the multimeter and set car to run, it'll show up 12v instead of between 1v-6v? I look around the distributor coil but it doesn't have the blue wire either.

Tachometer     blue           tach test connector
Notes: The tach test connector is located behind the battery on the 4 cylinder, and on a bracket attached to the drivers side strut tower on the 6 cylinder motor. The tach test connector is a white 2 pin connector, and may be covered by a black rubber boot.




Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: December 31, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Well, test it without the car running, see if it has any voltage.  If none, test it with the car running for any voltage.

You could also try an uncommon colored wire at the injectors.



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Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: December 31, 2010 at 3:40 PM
thanks for the reply.

When I tested the wires with the car not running, it shows up 0 and with the car running it shows up 12volts. This isn't the 12volt constant wire. So do you think this is the tach wire?




Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: December 31, 2010 at 4:51 PM
I would say no.  Try finding an uncommon color at one of the fuel injectors and test that for a tach signal. 1~6 volts.

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: December 31, 2010 at 4:55 PM
It's a blue wire, right hand engine bay loom taped to this loom, goes to a blue two way plug with one blue wire in it. Located between suspension tower and bulkhead.
Did you set your DMM to AC or DC?

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: December 31, 2010 at 4:57 PM
I should have added you can only test it with the engine running for obvious reasons.
And the answer to my question above is AC 3-6VAC.

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Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: December 31, 2010 at 7:54 PM
would this be the tach connector?posted_image




Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: December 31, 2010 at 8:23 PM
Did you test it with a DMM as suggested by Howie II  ?? 

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Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: December 31, 2010 at 9:14 PM
When i tested it in was dc and it was 12volts running. Should i test it in ac?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 01, 2011 at 4:37 AM
Asked and answered

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 01, 2011 at 4:39 AM
AC settings on your DMM please.
Yes it is that plug, how many more times for this particular question, original poster, next time please do a search!

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Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: January 02, 2011 at 4:53 PM
Thanks I got everything hook up. I even hook up the Honda Fortin Bypass SL3 and it's successful programmed. My car can lock, unlock, door trigger works well, and trunk release is working. I hook up everything in the H3 except the accessory 1 and accessory 2. I didn't hook up H2 wires because it was optional. Since I hook up the Fortin, I didn't hook up the Remote Start relay out which were:
blue rs status (-)200mA output
pink RS iginition1 " "
violet rs starter " "
orange rs accessory " "
pink/white flex " "

Is it necessary to hook this up to do the remote start since I already hook up the fortin bypass?

I used the LE transponder guide to change the manual transmission to an automatic:
Step 1: Open car door.
Step 2: Cycle ignition key ON then OFF. Do the next step within 10 seconds.
Step 3: Press and hold valet switch until LED flashes 3 times (siren chirps 3 times), then release.
Step 4: Press and release valet switch once then press and hold. Siren chirps once.
Step 5: While still holding the valet switch, press UNLOCK button of transmitter. Siren chirps 2 times.
Step 6: Release valet switch. Cycle ignition key ON then OFF.

but my responder led and sire didn't respond to this procedure and I tried to do tach setup but it wasn't successful either.

Can someone look over this and see what I can do to get the remote start to work?

Thanks




Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: January 02, 2011 at 4:54 PM
siren**




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: January 02, 2011 at 11:01 PM

blue rs status (-)200mA output
pink RS iginition1 " "
violet rs starter " "
orange rs accessory " "

all those wires must be connected for your remote start to work

blue rs status (-)200mA output to fortin ground when running input
pink RS iginition1
violet rs starter
orange rs accessory



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Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: January 02, 2011 at 11:57 PM
blue rs status (-)200mA output to fortin ground when running input
pink RS iginition1
violet rs starter
orange rs accessory

Tedmond, thanks for the reply. But I want to make sure I do this correctly:
blue rs- I have already connected the fortin (blue wire) to the clifford matrix (WHITE/ blue) remote start activation wire, so should I also connect this blue rs wire too with the other two?

pink rs-I just need to connect this directly to the car's ignition 1 wire?

violet- I have interrupted the starter wire, so should I connect it to the car side or the key for this wire?

orange accessory- I have accessory 1 and 2, which should I connect this to?

thanks so much




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 03, 2011 at 3:53 AM
Use pink/white for one of the ACC's
Green to key side of cut starter wire.
Violet to car side.
Why does the Fortin Blue connected to the Clifford's WHITE/ blue?
Am I missing something here? The WHITE/ blue is an input, why needed if the Clifford has a remote control fob?

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Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: January 03, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Yeah I got the starter violet and green wire connected already. I called Honda Fortin and they told me to hook up the WHITE/ blue activation wire to the "blue" running wire of the alarm. So am I suppose those two up or not? or am I suppose to hook this up to the blue rs wire? Do I need to hook up this WHITE/ blue remote start activation at all?

Thanks




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 03, 2011 at 1:47 PM
Do they mean the blue "STATUS OUTPUT"of the alarm to a WHITE/ blue on the Fortin unit? If so fine but DON'T connect either to the WHITE/ blue of the alarm.

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Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: January 04, 2011 at 5:51 PM
I contact fortin and they told me wrong about the WHITE/ blue activation wire. Im suppose to connect it to the blue status output wire. There is also pink iginition, violrt starter, orange acc, and pink/white acc 2. Is it necessary to have a 1-amp diode?




Posted By: lochuynh2700
Date Posted: January 04, 2011 at 5:55 PM
Or can i just hook up the wires directly?





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