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Topic: mini cooper transponder

Posted By: jen1110bill
Subject: mini cooper transponder
Date Posted: January 04, 2011 at 7:34 PM

I have a bypass module for the transponder and cant figure out wiring, there are 2 loop wires, both are grey, 1 with a red stripe and 1 with blue stripe. My question is which wire do I cut in half? The instructions with it say to cut one but dosent specify which one, does anyone know, and there are 4 other wires that say to hook to the keysense wires but the car dosent have a keysense, 1 is constant 12v and other is ground and another says to hook to wire of alarm unit that shows ground while running, can anyone point me in the right direction of which wire on the alarm unit is a ground while running or can I hook it to a normal ground? The alarm unit is a "FM AUTOSTART" thanks in advance for any info



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Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: January 04, 2011 at 9:49 PM
Your remote start unit will have a wire that provides a low current negative that is considered the 'ground while running' wire that connects to the bypass. If you connect it to ground permanently the bypass module will be on all of the time, eventually draining your vehicle battery and possibly causing the vehicle to see two transponders making it not start with a key.

What year is the Mini Cooper? What is the make and model of the bypass unit you are trying to install? It sounds like you are using a key-in-a-box style bypass but without the other information I am not sure what to recommend trying.

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 05, 2011 at 8:45 AM
Normally on a Min with regular key I would only use a DEI 556U wired for European Cars, i.e. no loop cut EITHER wire (it doesn't matter).
Problem is I've never heard of this alarm R/S.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: jen1110bill
Date Posted: January 05, 2011 at 2:46 PM
sorry its a 2003 mini cooper and it is a key in the box type bypass but dont have it in front of me right now so dont know make and model but ill find out, the bypass box can either use a key or it has a slot that u can take the chip out of the key and plug it into the box, if i remember correctly its called an "X-KEY BYPASS MODULE"




Posted By: jen1110bill
Date Posted: January 05, 2011 at 3:04 PM

the make of the bypass module is "Xpresskey" and the model is "tbxkey" also is there a way i can hook a relay up to the clutch to bypass is? the alarm is made for a manual transmission, or do i have to do the memorization process that came in the instructions?





Posted By: iamhata
Date Posted: January 11, 2011 at 2:57 AM
hi, i am kim , i was planing to do alarm on my 05 cooper s manual. good luck,




Posted By: monty_77
Date Posted: January 11, 2011 at 1:55 PM
you will a have to bypass the clutch temporally for remote start and the memorization process must be completed before each remote start attempt. it is a safety feature and a very important one on a manual.

it let's the R/S know that the vehicle is not in gear.

if you work around this and the vehicle is left in gear imagine the chaos and lawsuits you will face.

once you get use to the procedure you will not even think about it and you will just do it natural every time you get out of the vehicle.

remember do it right or don't do it at all






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Posted By: iamhata
Date Posted: January 11, 2011 at 7:29 PM
order tbxkey and compustar bl2wfmas. thanks for your advice




Posted By: iamhata
Date Posted: January 20, 2011 at 8:10 PM
i install the remote/ alarm today . alarm works , but the remote start doesn't work, even i used my key, the car doesn't start, i think the by pass not working




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 21, 2011 at 1:42 AM
If it doesn't start with the key in the ignition you've done something wrong.
List what you connected to where.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: iamhata
Date Posted: January 21, 2011 at 4:06 PM
I use tbxkey to bypass. first I put the key inside the box. I wiring constant 12 v , trona and another ground from the remote start. second harness I wiring the black sliver text wire to the sliver blue transponder wire. cut sliver brown wire. connect black sliver stripes to key side. black to transceiver side.
thx for helping




Posted By: iamhata
Date Posted: January 21, 2011 at 4:21 PM
I use tbxkey to bypass. first I put the key inside the box. I wiring constant 12 v , chassis ground and another ground gwr to remote start. second harness I wiring the black sliver text wire to the sliver blue transponder wire. cut sliver brown wire. connect black sliver stripes to key side. black to transceiver side.
thx for helping




Posted By: iamhata
Date Posted: January 21, 2011 at 4:53 PM
should I remove tbxkey and buy 566u. are they same




Posted By: monty_77
Date Posted: January 21, 2011 at 6:23 PM
they are pretty much the same thing

make sure you have 60 windings select by the jumper and that the oem jumper is correct.

did you try both installation for splicing in to the transceiver wire




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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 21, 2011 at 6:31 PM
I still want to know about the H/3 wiring, what did you wire to what on the ignition loom.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: iamhata
Date Posted: January 21, 2011 at 10:55 PM
i remove my bypass, and check the jumper , it was oem key and 60 winding
may be i try it tomorrow moring
what is H/3 wiring?




Posted By: monty_77
Date Posted: January 21, 2011 at 11:03 PM
on the remote starter there is a harness in the installation manual that is referred to as H/3

howie would like you to list the color of the wire you hooked to each wire of this harness and location where you got it.



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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 22, 2011 at 1:45 AM
iamhata, is English not your first language? If so please get a friend who speaks fluent English to re-write your posts, I'm having problems understanding what you're trying to say.
Don't use the OEM key if it has the lock/unlock/hatch buttons, use a Valet key.
Connect the car's violet ACC lead as your second ignition not ACC.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: iamhata
Date Posted: January 23, 2011 at 3:33 PM
yes english is not my first language, thx for helping me
harness 1
red wire to 12v red wire from ignition harness
red white to 12v red wire from ignition harness
green to light green from ignition harness
yellow to black blue wire from ignition wire
          (connect yellow black to key side and yellow to starter side)
black to chassis ground

harness 2
green white to black wire from passenger kick panel
light blue to blue / tan/ yellow wire from hand brake switch
light blue /white to BROWN / grey at brake switch
green to purple black at ignition harness
purple black to grey brown wire at passenger kick panel
red white to brown grey yellow wire from passenger kick panel
black to blue wire from bypass module
orange to blue red at passage kick panel
orange white to white black at passage kick panel
yellow black to black blue from ignition coil
gray black to purple green at passenger kick panel
purple to brown yellow at passenger kick panel
brown to red wire from siren






Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 23, 2011 at 4:54 PM
OK you need to relay out your ignition, green to light green out to the car's violet wire as ignition 2.
The second harness since you've failed to mention what make of R/S, would you please tell me what the colours of your unit represent.
Yellow/black if that's the tach sense wire can to go to pin 9, probably black at the OBD ll socket, a.k.a. data link connector.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 23, 2011 at 4:59 PM
I can work out some of them but what are these for?
GREEN / WHITE
light blue
green
RED / white
black
grey/black
purple.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: iamhata
Date Posted: January 23, 2011 at 5:31 PM
https://www.nustart.ca/manuals/5000-Series.pdf
page 13
thx




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 23, 2011 at 6:17 PM
OK, your main loom is correct but the secondary loom......
Green pin 5 goes to the car's PURPLE / black via a relay as so;
green to 85
constant 12v+ to 86 and 87, fused at 30amps.
30 to PURPLE / black of car
Diode* between pins 85 and 86 band towards 86.
The unit is sending a low current neg via the green, thus needs the above relay to change the polarity and boost the current.

RED / white pin 8 is split. there are TWO BROWN / grey with yellow dot wires they are at pins 22 and 42 on a black plug at the control unit. Diode* separate with the bands towards the Compustar. You're only picking up one of the doors.

You've joined the alarms violet to a BROWN / yellow of the car, why?

Have you connected the vehicle locks yet?
Is there a comfort close on the Compustar? If so use it, it will close the windows and roof.
Also check the voltage on the brake switch, I think it's wrong.
*Use 1N4004 diodes


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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: iamhata
Date Posted: January 23, 2011 at 7:09 PM
thx a lot




Posted By: iamhata
Date Posted: January 23, 2011 at 7:27 PM
violet to brown yellow for dome-light




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 24, 2011 at 2:26 AM
Not needed, a) That dome feed is positive, the violet is neg, and it's an aux output not a dome light controller.
Not needed, b) The dome lights come on automatically with unlock from the Compustar remote.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: iamhata
Date Posted: January 24, 2011 at 8:45 PM
my bypass key work now , i can start my car with key . thanks a lot
i still work on the remote start. i connect tach wire , brake wire, door pin wire, e-brake wire . i also connect the green wire to the PURPLE / black via a relay. but i haven't connect the clutch wire . i saw two BLACK / YELLOW at driver kick panel at the gray module. can i use harness 3 pin 3 with relay to supply 12v to the BLACK/ yellow clutch wire .





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