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Topic: 1998 civic viper 5701

Posted By: xbimmer
Subject: 1998 civic viper 5701
Date Posted: January 04, 2011 at 9:01 PM

1998 Civic Lx (4 doors) Automatic
Viper 5701
USED THIS DIAGRAM
Connection:
*Primary(h1) 12-pin
H1/1 RED / WHITE           (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT        not used

H1/2 RED        (+)12v CONSTANT INPUT              White       

H1/3 BROWN   (+) SIREN OUTPUT            red on siren ( grounded black to chassi of car)

H1/4 WHITE/ BROWN    LIGHT FLASH -ISOLATION WIRE   not used

H1/5 BLACK     (-) CHASSIS GROUND              chassis ground

H1/6 VIOLET    (+) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT             not used i mine is (-)

H1/7 BLUE        (-) TRUNK PIN/ INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT     Radio Light Green (-)

H1/8 GREEN     (-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT        Light GREEN/ Red (-)

H1/9 BLACK/ WHITE       (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT OUTPUT            lt green /black factory alarm plug

H1/10 WHITE/ BLUE        (-) REMOTE START/ TURBO TIMER ACTIVATION INPUT not used

H1/11 WHITE   PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT     not used turned off in settings

H1/12 ORANGE             (-) 500mA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT   not used


*Auxilary harness (H2) 8 pin   **DIDNT USE ANY***
H2/1     LIGHT GREEN/ BLACK
H2/2     LIGHT GREEN/ WHITE
H2/3     WHITE/ VIOLET
H2/4     VIOLET/BLACK
H2/5     WHITE/ BLACK
H2/6     LIGHT BLUE
H2/7     GRAY/BLACK
H2/8     BROWN / BLACK
(-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM DISARM OUTPUT
(-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM ARM OUTPUT
(-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT
(-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT
(-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT
(-) 200mA 2ND UNLOCK OUTPUT
(-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT
(-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT


Door lock harness 3 pin
1 Blue + lock       GREEN / WHITE   driver kick blue plug ( source of wire color direct wire)
3 green - unlock    GREEN/ orange driver kick blue plug ( source of wire color direct wire)

*Heavy Gauge remote start (h3)


1   PINK              (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT      Ignition     BLACK / YELLOW

2   RED / WHITE (30A) FUSED IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87      Constant 12V+     White

3   ORANGE       ACCESSORY OUTPUT             Accessory                WHITE/ Black

4   VIOLET          (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL WIRE)      Starter     BLACK/ White

5   GREEN           (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL WIRE)   Starter     BLACK/ White

6   RED(+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT              Constant 12V+     White

7 PINK/WHITE   (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT      Ignition 2     Yellow   programed in settings as ignition 2

8 PINK/BLACK    FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A key side (if required) of FLEX RELAY      not used

9 RED / BLACK      FUSED (30A) ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT       Constant 12V+     White

*Remote start input 5 pin*

1   BLACK/ WHITE   (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH INPUT    connected to wire h1/5 which goes to chassis

2   VIOLET/WHITE     TACHOMETER INPUT WIRE    blue wire behind tach that read voltage when tach worked and when i disconected it tachometer stoped working

3    BROWN              (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN WIRE     GREEN / WHITE brake switch

4    GRAY   N/O or N/C (-) HOOD PIN SWITCH INPUT, ZONE 6      to hood pin

5 BLUE/WHITE              (-) 200 mA 2ND STATUS/REAR DEFOGGER    not used

Remote start aux output 5 pin **didnt not use any

Note: Wires 1 - 4 on the remote auxiliary outputs are wired to the (-) triggers for the onboard remote start relays and are not diode isolated. If wiring these wires directly to the vehicle you must place a 1-amp diode in line to prevent feedback from the vehicle.
1
PINK/WHITE
(-) 200mA FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT
2
ORANGE
(-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT
3
VIOLET
(-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT
4
PINK
(-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT
5
BLUE
(-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT

My question:

car does remote starts, remote shuts off , alarm works , doors unlock ,locks .
Only thing
2 way remote doesnt show confirmation.
when i press something   like lock ,it locks the car but gives me at first F led solid and orange led flashes

then in few seconds beeps 2 times with F led 4 times like: ty dy ....few seconds pause ty dy ....pause .... ty dy....pause ... ty dy

also when i unlock siren chirps twice then in few seconds one more chirp .
when i lock only once.   

Please help .










USED THIS DIAGRAM



Replies:

Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: January 04, 2011 at 10:08 PM

reset the brain by removing all fuses for 30 seconds.



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2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert




Posted By: xbimmer
Date Posted: January 04, 2011 at 10:16 PM
tedmond wrote:

reset the brain by removing all fuses for 30 seconds.




just did it tried twice first 30 sec , 2nd time 1 min , same no change :(   ( also bought new battery for remote.




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: January 04, 2011 at 10:53 PM

you most likely have a defective remote then.

i ran into the same problem awhile back, had to buy new remotes



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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert




Posted By: xbimmer
Date Posted: January 04, 2011 at 11:00 PM
tedmond wrote:

you most likely have a defective remote then.

i ran into the same problem awhile back, had to buy new remotes



Ill try new remote at the end of week.
How does the wiring look? Any wire that needs to be connected?
I really appreciate your time.




Posted By: xbimmer
Date Posted: January 05, 2011 at 7:52 AM
any body else had /have this issue ?   thxz




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: January 05, 2011 at 8:06 AM

wiring looks fine.

there were many issues with remotes not working, did you buy the unit online?



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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert




Posted By: xbimmer
Date Posted: January 05, 2011 at 8:08 AM
Yes, but its covered under lifitime no hassle exchange.




Posted By: xbimmer
Date Posted: January 05, 2011 at 1:50 PM
I'm shipping the brain and remotes for testing and exchange, ill post back with results.




Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: January 05, 2011 at 5:54 PM
Out of the 20 or so 5301 and 5701 that I have dealt with, I had one that acted the way yours does.   No matter what I tried, it remained funky.  Replace it.

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 05, 2011 at 6:05 PM
That second beep may even be a door or hood trigger not working properly, that apart your wiring is fine.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: xbimmer
Date Posted: January 06, 2011 at 5:19 PM
i just tested my friends remote , does the same but with out beeps after ,
so i shipped out the brain and remotes for exchange , thxz all , ill post back when new unit arrives.

now i need to figure that extra beep. ill do that after 2 way communication starts working .




Posted By: xbimmer
Date Posted: January 28, 2011 at 5:33 PM
Hey guys, that was brain problem , how everything works , any body can point me in right direction with door trigger , when i disconnect the wire (green- ) it doesn't chirp one more time after locking , and remote shows at the end one red with one green on very top.
what seems to be the problem ? or should i connect violet since mine (in civic is negative) ?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 28, 2011 at 5:46 PM
Forget the violet, you don't use it.
Have you actually tested to make sure your door, trunk and add-on hood switches are working correctly?
You can programme it out anyway.
If it is the door contact switch, change to wiring to the door ajar indicator light on the instrument panel, it's more reliable anyway.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: xbimmer
Date Posted: January 28, 2011 at 7:29 PM
howie ll wrote:

Forget the violet, you don't use it.
Have you actually tested to make sure your door, trunk and add-on hood switches are working correctly?
You can programme it out anyway.
If it is the door contact switch, change to wiring to the door ajar indicator light on the instrument panel, it's more reliable anyway.

You wont believe it ,stupid of me , passenger door wasn't closed all the way. Works perfect.
thank you

Actually have 2 questions?   when should i lear rpm when car is cold ,or warmed up ?

and how to you adjust the sensor sensitivity ? should i touch it at all ?




Posted By: tony_g
Date Posted: January 28, 2011 at 7:48 PM
i did the tach learn for my 5701 with the engine cold, if you let it warm up and learn at the lower idle then remote start in cold weather the engine idles high before settling down and the r/s assumes its over revving and shuts down. my shock sensor is set at 8 i cant really go higher as if i do it gets set off by pumped up pickups with the custom deep sounding exhausts.




Posted By: xbimmer
Date Posted: January 28, 2011 at 9:39 PM
tony_g wrote:

i did the tach learn for my 5701 with the engine cold, if you let it warm up and learn at the lower idle then remote start in cold weather the engine idles high before settling down and the r/s assumes its over revving and shuts down. my shock sensor is set at 8 i cant really go higher as if i do it gets set off by pumped up pickups with the custom deep sounding exhausts.


so how do u set/adjust sensor ?

and i learned mine when its cold ,it works perfect so far.




Posted By: tony_g
Date Posted: January 28, 2011 at 11:53 PM

Adjusting the onboard shock sensor

The new Responder LE system has an onboard shock sensor that is

remote adjustable. Adjusting the onboard sensor can be performed

by an authorized dealer (recommended) or by a programmed remote

transmitter.

Transmitter adjustment:

Disarm the unit and exit Valet Mode if ON. Turn the ignition off and

close all entry points (door, hood, trunk).

Use the following steps to put the control module into sensor

adjust mode:

Press/hold the function button of the remote control for 8 seconds or

until the Amber LED turns on and you hear one long beep.

Press/hold the lock button 1.5 seconds or until the amber led flashes once:

The control module will emit one long chirp, enter adjust mode, and

send the current level of information back to the transmitter. The

remote will beep once and the button LEDs will turn on to indicate the

current level.

Press the Arm, Disarm, or Remote Start buttons to adjust the sensor

level.

Arm button: Pressing the arm button will increase the sensitivity one

level. The siren chirps twice, the remote beeps twice and the LEDs increase in level.

Disarm button: Pressing the disarm button will decrease the sensitivity

one level. The siren chirps once, the remote beeps once and the LEDs

decrease in level.

Remote Start button: Pressing the r/s button will reset to default

level 7. The siren chirp three times, the remote beeps three times and

the LEDs reset.

To exit the adjust shock sensor mode from the remote control:

Press the function button. The control module is exited.

To exit the adjust shock sensor mode from the control module:

Open an entry point or turn on the ignition, the control module will

emit one long chirp and tell the remote to exit adjust mode.

To exit programming:

Press and release the function button any time during programming to go

back to the main menu. Press and hold for 1.5 seconds in the main

menu to exit programming.





Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 29, 2011 at 4:19 AM
X 3 with tony-g and xbimmer. it was an old Clifford trick to increase the idle revs from say 800rpm to 1100rpm whilst programming.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.





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