only warn away with dei shock sensor?

I have a python 991 I installed in my vehicle. So far I like it a lot.

The alarm is wired to switches on all the entry points. I also have a glass-break sensor I'm planning on using but its not calibrated yet, and I may add a tilt sensor.

Anyways, at this point, I don't think it's too important for me to have the shock sensor able to trigger the full alarm. I think its main purpose in my system right now is to act as a deterrent, especially if someone is bumping the vehicle to verify that it has a real alarm.

As a result, I was thinking I might bypass the full trigger functionality of the shock sensor, just keeping the warn away function.

The manual tells me how to do the reverse (bypass the warn away but not the full trigger) or bypass both, but not what I want to do.

Is this possible?

Thanks!

too many sensors, just keep the tilt sensor

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Ted
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Isn't the shock sensor built in? If so forget it.

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I believe you are right Howie. If it were separate you could simply cut the trigger wire but in this case it ain't possible...

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Mike M2
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Yes it's inbuilt, personally I'd forget tilt sensor unless they're now reliable, the glass break is useless I'd go with a carefully adjusted 508d dual-zone proximity detector, or even a single zone.

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shock sensor is built in. looks like a defective brain?

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Ted
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What are you smoking Ted? The poster never said defective just wanted it only as an outer zone.

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Someones that doesn't like tilt or glass sensors? Whoa!
That's 2 of us!

(The only thing I like about them is my laughter after I've triggered yet another one!)

I like the proximity detectors though. Mine is a few mW before intrusion but is boosted to 3kW after intrusion.

Never liked too many sensors, they actually trigger each other, the warn away can trip the glass breaker, that's after carefully adjusting each against the other, tilt sensors would go off every minute, whenever I get a "mystery" problem with a Clifford G5 it's the tilt sensor and no I never install them!

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Wow, I'm suprised the internal shock sensor can't be configured to be "warn-only". It seems like this would be a very popular option.

By the way,
Is the tilt sensor really that unreliable? Reviews on amazon seem very positive. (I'm talking about the 507M). What if it is set to the less-sensitive 3-degree cutoff?

For that matter, the glass mic also has good reviews, with people saying they don't get any false alarms.

Isn't Amazon always positive?


I don't know which are reliable, I just know the number triggered by my car, certain motorbikes, and various other things - like thunder, wind, .....


But my alarms tend to be silent (NEVER any chirps etc except for high internal (cabin) and external dB about 10 seconds after entry triggering.
And I never use voltage detection (I use the door etc switches direct) nor ultrasonic etc. Microwave yes.
Tilt switches maybe - but only for the remote alert (not siren).

On G4 Cliffords one model over here had a glass break AND a dual zone prox. After discovering on the first few (actually 2) installs that the prox's outer zone triggered the glass break we had to turn down the glass break 'till it was useless!
As for tilts, the original 507T was useless, leave the car on level ground for 1 minute, the alarm would trigger off.
The current 507M is better but I cut BOTH loops.

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And you take notes of what Amazon, who are after all in the business of selling you something say? Try asking installers.
Sorry for me it's only a (properly adjusted or as you called it calibrated) 508d.

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oldspark wrote:

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Isn't Amazon always positive?
But my alarms tend to be silent (NEVER any chirps etc except for high internal (cabin) and external dB about 10 seconds after entry triggering.
And I never use voltage detection (I use the door etc switches direct) nor ultrasonic etc. Microwave yes.
Tilt switches maybe - but only for the remote alert (not siren).

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Thanks for all the replies guys. I too have my alarm wired directed to door switches (some of which I had to retrofit). I feel like I made a mistake by injecting issues about which sensors are worthwhile into the discussion, though.

My main goal at this point is to find out if its possible to have a warn-away only shock sensor reponse with the 991. Is this really impossible with the internal sensor? Not to sound skeptical but it seems like such a natural feature (almost like it should be the default behavior). Otherwise, can I disable the internal sensor and replace it with an external one which I could use only with warn-away?

Except that to disable the internal sensor, you're going to have to open up the unit, bench it to find the right track, break the track etc, then....good luck with any warrantee.

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howie ll wrote:

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Except that to disable the internal sensor, you're going to have to open up the unit, bench it to find the right track, break the track etc, then....good luck with any warrantee.

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I think I could just turn the sensitivity all the way down on the internal sensor.

Yes that will probably do although I think you will loose the external warn away unless you can adjust inner and outer zones separately. Check the install manual.
Ref. retrofitting switches.
That should be normal practice, especially early 90s Euro Fords and ALL Hondas with the expensive slide switches adjacent to the door shuts.

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