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99 camaro, viper 5901

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Topic: 99 camaro, viper 5901

Posted By: legendarysouls
Subject: 99 camaro, viper 5901
Date Posted: January 19, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Got an 99 camaro and installing an viper 5901 need help with these harnesses
H2/1- LHT GRN/BLK (-) 200mA OEM ALARM DISARM OUTPUT
H2/2- ORG/BLK (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT
H2/3- GRN/WHT (-) 200mA OEM ALARM ARM OUTPUT
H2/4- VIOL/BLK (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT
H2/5- WHT/BLK (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT
H2/6- WHT/VIOL (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT
H2/7- GRY/BLK (-) 200mA DIESEL WAIT TO START (dont think we need this one LOL)

H2/8- BRW/BLK (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT
H2/9- VIOL/WHT TACHOMETER INPUT
H2/10- DRK BLU (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT
H2/11- PINK/WHT (-) 200mA FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT
H2/12- ORG (-) 200mA ACC OUTPUT
H2/13- PRPL (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT
H2/14- PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT
H2/15- GRY (-) 200mA HOOD PIN INPUT (N/C N/O)
H2/16- BLU/WHT (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS/REAR DEFFOGER OUTPUT
H2/17- BRW (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT
H2/18- BLK/WHT (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY INPUT

H3/1 pink, to cars BLACK / YELLOW.
H3/2 RED / white, to 12V constant.
H3/3 orange, to cars yellow.
H3/4 violet, starter side of cars cut BLACK/ white lead.
H3/5 green, key side of cars cut BLACK/ white lead.
H3/6 red, to 12V constant.
H3/7 pink/white, to cars WHITE/ black and program as 2nd acc.
H3/8 pink/black, not needed.
H3/9 RED / black to 12V constant.



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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 22, 2011 at 8:50 AM
Look on this site under vehicle wiring, frankly if you need help with that many wires, take it to a pro and pay to have them do it for you.

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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: legendarysouls
Date Posted: May 02, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Hey

got a 99 camaro z82

got everything to work on the alarm side of the viper 5901

remote start info:

bypass the passlock II with restior and tested and works

everything is wired as per this fourm wiring diagram and TESTED ....only thing i didnt use is the TACH Wire at all ( dead not attached )

car goes to turn on but no crank.....lights up like everything started and  does this cycles 3 times





Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: May 02, 2011 at 5:20 PM

Do you get any parking light flashes?? If so how many?  Is the car Auto or manual?  Toggle switch plugged in and ON ?



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Posted By: legendarysouls
Date Posted: May 03, 2011 at 10:10 AM

so i got the start to work

 NOW new problem......when i put the car in DRIVE OR REVERSE 1,2,3..... The odometer, gas gauage and temp stop working like i lose power to gauages...happens with remote sstart or key start

99 camaro Auto





Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 03, 2011 at 11:04 AM
Check all your fuses AND your internal connections plugs etc. Looks like an instrument panel feed to me. Do these units work when vehicle is in park or neutral?
Smokeman 1 why are we bothering? He isn't listening.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: legendarysouls
Date Posted: May 03, 2011 at 11:21 AM

Auto .. swtich is ON..dont get any flashes....unit powers on via remote and key ......all seems fine untill car is put in to gear then car loses power to ceratin gauages. YES THEy only work when in park or netural :)

going to check fuses and wiring now

THNAKS

please help sorry





Posted By: legendarysouls
Date Posted: May 05, 2011 at 7:46 AM
FUSES are good




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: May 05, 2011 at 8:51 AM

Strange problem.  Not sure if this will help but it is a place to check.
Per your H3 harness connections:  Did you use a DMM to locate and verify the ignition wires?
On some cars, it is best to connect right at the ignition switch.

Here is info for 1999 Camaro:
    Signal                               Color/Polarity           Location                                                                              Source
 12 VOLT CONSTANT            RED (+)               @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS                       Bulldog, Audiovox, DEI 
 STARTER                               YELLOW (+)         @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS                      Bulldog, Audiovox, DEI 
 IGNITION 1                            PINK (+)                @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS                       Bulldog, Audiovox, DEI 
 IGNITION 2                            Brown (+)              @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS                      shown by  Audiovox only
 ACCESSORY 1                    ORANGE (+)         @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS                      Bulldog, Audiovox, DEI 
 



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Posted By: legendarysouls
Date Posted: May 05, 2011 at 8:56 AM

Yea i sure its the right wiring harness, tested that... only wierd thing is the problem happens if i use the key or remote start which makes me think i knocked something lose ....but i looked every fuse is good and all wiring looks intact.

thanks





Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 05, 2011 at 9:36 AM
Pop the instrument channel and check all the plugs for their fittings all though I believe you've made a wiring mistake somewhere.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 05, 2011 at 9:41 AM
How did you join your wiring?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: legendarysouls
Date Posted: May 05, 2011 at 12:00 PM

i solder  all the ing wires......And buttless and t taps for all others

.i m going to check my wiring again which wires will cause this problem?

thanks again





Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 05, 2011 at 12:45 PM
All those buts and T-Taps, throw them away and solder.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 05, 2011 at 12:49 PM
The ONLY time you should need a crimped connection is for either a relay or ring terminals on battery or grounds.
Never, ever t-tap, as a pro you would be canned from most professional organisations if you ever used them. Lousy electrical joints, fall apart with vibration and damp gets in causing corrosion. There's a whole thread on this topic in the general section.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 05, 2011 at 12:52 PM
Also I use a compound ratchet for crimping, pre-torqued and costs over $100. Anything less is a waste of time.
For solder joints use either shrink sleeving or Scotch 33+ tape. Again anything else will fall apart with time.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: legendarysouls
Date Posted: May 06, 2011 at 8:27 AM

tracked it done to the H3 harness n it has something to do with start wire/relay... when the relay is out it works (car wont start obv)   ...did i wire it right

H3/4 pin 30 of the onboard starter kill relay. pig tails off

H3/5 pin 87a of the onboard starter kill relay. pig tails off

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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: May 06, 2011 at 8:34 AM
Did you wire in an external relay?  ( Couldn't tell from your last post.)  The Viper has a starter interrupt relay built in.  You just connect the H3/4 and H3/5 wires to the correct sides of the cut vehicle starter wire.

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 06, 2011 at 8:37 AM
First, that relay shown isn't needed it's the starter cut/anti-grind and it'salready there inside your unit.
Just cut the starter wire, key side to green and cut (starter side) to violet (purple). That relay shown is wired wrong and you have the green and violet the wrong way round.
On that diagram the wire marked from ignition, should be marked " from key side starter wire and should go to 87a. An ignition 1 wire (pink on the 5901) should go to 86, starter wire to 30.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: legendarysouls
Date Posted: May 06, 2011 at 9:01 AM

thank u howie ,

basic going to cut out start relay and wire

h3 green to key side

h3 purple to starter side

THANKS Again i got confused because i removed an old alarm tht needed the DEI 610 thanks






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