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2005 malibu no start or instr clusterPrinted From: the12volt.comForum Name: Car Security and Convenience Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc. URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=125915 Printed Date: April 30, 2024 at 1:22 AM Topic: 2005 malibu no start or instr cluster Posted By: bruc007 Subject: 2005 malibu no start or instr cluster Date Posted: January 29, 2011 at 3:43 PM Just wired up a 2005 malibu with ads-al-ca from idatlink and have had no problems at all installing these. Until today... When it was all wired up ,it failed to program.upon trying to start with key it would run but only for a few seconds.There is no power to the dash- no lights except the engine light.No fuel guage,no passlock lights nothing..Tested all fuses under hood and at bcm ,checked fuse box for corrosion etc all good.. There is power on the brown acc wire at ignition switch,and ignition power on yellow wire at ignition switch when key is cycled..
Any thoughts or help would be greatly appreciated Bruce Replies: Posted By: monty_77 Date Posted: January 29, 2011 at 8:21 PM is this a malibu, malibu classic, or max
Posted By: bruc007 Date Posted: January 29, 2011 at 11:44 PM Regular 05 malibu 4 cyl
Posted By: monty_77 Date Posted: January 30, 2011 at 11:06 AM Malibu Classic wiring
Item Wire Color Polarity Wire Location 12 Volts red + ignition harness Remove the radio, without unplugging it, to access the ignition harness. Second 12 Volts Starter yellow + ignition harness Remove the radio, without unplugging it, to access the ignition harness. Second Starter N/A Ignition pink + ignition harness Remove the radio, without unplugging it, to access the ignition harness. Second Ignition dk. green + ignition harness Remove the radio, without unplugging it, to access the ignition harness. Third Ignition N/A Accessory orange + ignition harness Remove the radio, without unplugging it, to access the ignition harness. Second Accessory brown + ignition harness Remove the radio, without unplugging it, to access the ignition harness. Third Accessory N/A Keysense Data Bus yellow (resistor code), black (ground) Passlock 2 Passlock sensor on ignition key cylinder Can Bus High Can Bus Low Can Bus Sw purple data data link connector under driver dash, pin 2 Power Lock white - driver kick, door harness Lock requires a negative trigger, and unlock requires a negative trigger thru a 1,500 ohm resistor. MUST use relays. Must close doors to lock with a single pulse. Power Unlock same wire as power lock Lock Motor gray 5wi driver kick, door harness Driver Unlock Motor tan 5wi driver kick, door harness Parking Lights (-) Parking Lights (+) brown + passenger kick or column Hazards Turn Signal (Left) Turn Signal (Right) Headlight dk. blue & pink - steering column Requires high current ground. MUST use relays. AutoLights Reverse Light Left Front Door Trigger lt. GREEN/ black & lt. blue - The lt. GREEN/ black is located in the driver kick and catches only the driver door. The lt. blue is located in the harness coming from the driver running board going under the driver seat and it catches all other doors. Use both door trigger wires and diode isolate each. Right Front Door Trigger Left Rear Door Trigger Right Rear Door Trigger Dome Supervision white - dash light or column Trunk/Hatch Pin ORANGE / black - light in trunk Rear Glass Pin Hood Pin Trunk/Hatch Release BLACK/ white + driver kick panel Trunk Release Motor Fuel Door Release Power Sliding Door (Left) N/A Power Sliding Door (Right) Factory Alarm Arm Factory Alarm Disarm Disarm No Unlock Trunk Alarm Shunt Tachometer PURPLE / white ac ignition coil or ECM The ECM (Engine Control Module) is located under the driver side dash to the left of the steering column. Wait to Start N/A Neutral Safety Clutch Pedal Fuel Pump Rear Defroster Mirror Defroster Left Front Heated Seat Right Front Heated Seat Speed Sense dk. GREEN / WHITE ECM The ECM (Engine Control Module) is located under the driver side dash to the left of the steering column. Brake Wire lt. blue + brake pedal switch Parking Brake Horn Trigger black - steering column Wipers dk. green & purple + steering column Malibu Reg and Maxx Item Wire Color Polarity Wire Location 12 Volts RED / black (50A) + BCM, C3, pin D1 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Second 12 Volts RED / black (30A) + BCM, C3, pin D12 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Starter yellow (not for remote start) - PCM, blue plug, pin 48 or 23 The PCM (Powertrain Control Module) is in front of the battery on the driver side fender. Second Starter white +9.6K ohms ignition harness or BCM, C2, pin 56 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. If interface module is not available, see Tech Doc 1605. Ignition pink + ignition harness or BCM, C4, pin D3 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Second Ignition N/A Third Ignition N/A Accessory brown + ignition harness or BCM, C4, pin C8 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Second Accessory same as second starter +6.3K ohms Third Accessory N/A Keysense same as second starter Data Bus white (resistor code), WHITE/ black (5V reference) mux ignition harness or BCM, C2, pins 56 and 62 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. The keyless link wire is lt. green at the BCM, C2, pin 12. Can Bus High Can Bus Low Can Bus Sw dk. green data data link connector under driver dash, pin 1 Power Lock white - driver kick or BCM, C1, pin 66 Lock is a straight negative trigger. Unlock is negative trigger thru a 1.5K ohm resistor. MUST use relays. The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Power Unlock same as power lock wire Lock Motor gray/black to gray 5wi driver kick or BCM, C3, pin A5 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Driver Unlock Motor tan 5wi driver kick or BCM, C3, pin B1 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Parking Lights (-) BROWN / white - switch or BCM, C2, pin 5 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Parking Lights (+) brown + driver kick or BCM, C3, pin A7 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Hazards white - switch or BCM, C2, pin 9 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Turn Signal (Left) dk. blue (F), yellow (R) + BCM, C1, pin 38 and C3, pin A9 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Turn Signal (Right) dk. green (F), dk. green (R) + BCM, C1, pin 56 and C3, pin A12 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Headlight white - switch or BCM, C2, pin 15 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. AutoLights Reverse Light lt. green + fuse block, driver side of trunk Left Front Door Trigger gray/black (D), tan/white (P) - each kick or BCM, C1, pins 51 and 72 Use both wires and diode isolate each. The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Right Front Door Trigger Left Rear Door Trigger Right Rear Door Trigger Dome Supervision gray - BCM, C3, pin A10 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Trunk/Hatch Pin ORANGE / black - BCM, C1, pin 18 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Rear Glass Pin Hood Pin pink/black - pin switch or BCM, C1, pin 69 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Trunk/Hatch Release BROWN / white - switch or BCM, C1, pin 71 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Trunk Release Motor Fuel Door Release Power Sliding Door (Left) N/A Power Sliding Door (Right) Factory Alarm Arm arms on lock with door open Factory Alarm Disarm purple - driver kick, door harness This wire will disarm the factory alarm if it has not been triggered, but might not disarm if it has. This wire will also unlock the doors with a double pulse. Disarm No Unlock with ignition and Passkey Trunk Alarm Shunt Tachometer NOT pink ac any fuel injector Wait to Start N/A Neutral Safety Clutch Pedal Fuel Pump Rear Defroster Mirror Defroster Left Front Heated Seat Right Front Heated Seat Speed Sense brown (3.5L only) PCM, blue plug, pin 22 The PCM (Powertrain Control Module) is in front of the battery on the driver side fender. Brake Wire white + BCM, C1, pin 42 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Parking Brake lt. blue - switch or BCM, C1, pin 59 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Horn Trigger tan - switch or BCM, C2, pin 14 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Wipers dk. green + BCM, C1, pin 22 The BCM (Body Control Module) is part of the fuse/relay box on the front passenger side of the center console. It has the following connectors: C1-72 pin gray plug, C2-72 pin gray plug, C3-41 pin red plug, and C4-68 pin lt. gray plug. Posted By: bruc007 Date Posted: January 30, 2011 at 11:13 AM Something strange happened.I have done this vehicle type many times with no problem.this could be related to the remote or not.Right now I have no wires hooked up,the car is back to original and still no power to dash cluster- no lights except engine ,no security.no guages.Car will start and run 2-3 sec and quit.What powers dash bcm or pcm?
Bruce Posted By: monty_77 Date Posted: January 30, 2011 at 11:17 AM may want to start checking all fuses
Posted By: thenewenglandah Date Posted: September 11, 2011 at 11:08 AM IF 1. cluster gauges and backlight are functional but all indicators are inop, 2. you have run but no accessory, Check 2amp(if origional) Key Sense fuse located in BCM fuse panel Posted By: phil6710 Date Posted: September 11, 2011 at 8:02 PM change out the harneses for thei datalink bypass. I have come across some bad harneses, only a few and this will cause problems like this. Also call I datalink tech support and they will walk you through the process to test the harnes wireing. If you used the 3pin blue harness with the white WHITE/ red,WHITE/ black. Replace this harness first. It probaly is the problem. I have had three of the harnesses not work for some reason. Also If i remember corectly on this vehical one of the ignition wires is opened up and connects to this harness. Try a dirffent module to just incase its bad too.
------------- Solartech Window Tinting and Electronics,contract installer Posted By: Chris Luongo Date Posted: September 12, 2011 at 7:24 AM I know you said you checked all fuses and tested ignition and accessory wires, but still, here's where I would go with it. Test all five wires at the ignition switch for proper operation.
1. RED / white. Should have constant power. Protected by 2-amp fuse at BCM on right side of center console. 2. WHITE/ black 5-volt Reference. Should be about 5 volts at all times. 3. White Off/Run/Crank. ADS incorrectly refers to this as the "Passlock" wire, even though these cars don't have Passlock, only Passkey. Anyway, the Off/Run/Crank should show 12 volts positive with the key in the ignition, and then test at various other voltages with the key in the Accessory, Run, and Start positions. Also, take note of whether the key-in-ignition chime works, by inserting the key in the ignition with the door open. 4. Brown Accessory. I'm sure you know how to test an accessory wire. 5. Yellow Ignition. Test this too, of course. -------------------------- Besides that, isn't there a wire at the PK3 module that you have to interrupt? Test both sides of that wire to make sure you made good connections, and to make sure the internal relay in the module is working correctly. Maybe even consider putting the wire back together like factory just for testing. Also, you said no power to the dash.....but how about other things like windows, radio, and climate controls? If all else fails, never hurts to try disconnecting the car's battery for a few minutes. Might want to write down the customer's radio presets so you can reprogram them when done. Posted By: KPierson Date Posted: September 12, 2011 at 7:56 AM I would hope after 8 months they got the car figured out!
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