2007 dodge charger
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=125916
Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 5:35 AM
Topic: 2007 dodge charger
Posted By: ayalja123
Subject: 2007 dodge charger
Date Posted: January 29, 2011 at 5:06 PM
Has anybody use a DB-ALL for this car? I'm having a problem with the high and low cam wires. The probrem, can't find them,lol.on xpresskit it's showing a plug with 8 wire were the cam wires are suppost to be. But the car only has 6 wires. Does anyone know what the colors are? I got the ign wire and the starter of the other plug on the ign switch.
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Posted By: jpadj22
Date Posted: January 29, 2011 at 5:24 PM
WHITE/ orange Can h
White Can l
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Posted By: jpadj22
Date Posted: January 29, 2011 at 5:28 PM
It can say 8 pin but not necessarly have 8 wires. The can hi and can low usually are twisted together. Im not sure if u can check these wires with a Dmm. Hopefully somebody can add to this. I hope this info helps.
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Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: January 29, 2011 at 6:41 PM
Those wires are at the immobilizer plug. As stated, the connector may not have all eight positions occupied. I guess DEI assumes you are going to be a dealer and have access to their Directechs information, which lists the CAN H/L information. Idata's manual actually shows the CAN H/L colors, locations, and a picture of the connector as well. Follow the instructions for your DBALL but do yourself a favor and get the manual for Idata's module ADS-AL CA: here. It should help. ------------- Installer, IT support, and FFL. I need less hobbies.
Posted By: ayalja123
Date Posted: January 29, 2011 at 8:53 PM
Thanks for the help. I actually founded right after i posted this. But now i have a new problem. I got it to start but the oem key fabs won't work at all. And the aftermarket will only work while the car is remote started. Any clues
Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: January 29, 2011 at 9:49 PM
Never heard of that problem. Have to start troubleshooting one thing at a time. What system did you install? Are you using D2D or W2W? What did you use to trigger the ground when running input to the DBALL?
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Posted By: ayalja123
Date Posted: January 30, 2011 at 7:14 PM
I'm using w2w and am using the neg while running. The car remote starts with no problem, i just lost the key fabs signal. They are the originals so I don't understand why they're not working now. So how the signal was erase or reset. I'm gona call the dealer tomorow see what they say.
Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: January 30, 2011 at 7:33 PM
Again, What remote start system did you install? Did you verify the GWR is turning on and off as it's supposed to? How about the remaining analog connections between the remote start and the DBALL, lock, unlock, ignition, etc? Where did you get your ground?
Have you tried disconnecting the stuff you added then checking the factory remotes? If you call the dealer I am sure they will just tell you the remote start caused it. Besides, if it worked before you hooked up the remote start, and now it doesn't...I would think the same thing...something you added is causing the problem.
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Posted By: jpadj22
Date Posted: January 31, 2011 at 11:52 AM
Did you tap into the key sense wire? ------------- No better feeling then getting a remote start to work right!
Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: January 31, 2011 at 12:42 PM
jpadj22 wrote:
Did you tap into the key sense wire?
Have you heard of the problems ayalja123 is having when doing something improperly with the MUX wire? The PURPLE / brown MUX wire in the 07 Charger handles keysense, second starter, and accessory. Installation of the DBALL requires that you tap into this wire. ------------- Installer, IT support, and FFL. I need less hobbies.
Posted By: ayalja123
Date Posted: January 31, 2011 at 3:05 PM
Twelvoltz wrote:
Again, What remote start system did you install? Did you verify the GWR is turning on and off as it's supposed to? How about the remaining analog connections between the remote start and the DBALL, lock, unlock, ignition, etc? Where did you get your ground?
Have you tried disconnecting the stuff you added then checking the factory remotes? If you call the dealer I am sure they will just tell you the remote start caused it. Besides, if it worked before you hooked up the remote start, and now it doesn't...I would think the same thing...something you added is causing the problem.
The R/S is a crimestopper PS-4 .yes i veify th GWR is working like is supposed to. I connected the ground to chasi.
Posted By: ayalja123
Date Posted: January 31, 2011 at 3:15 PM
Twelvoltz wrote:
jpadj22 wrote:
Did you tap into the key sense wire?
Have you heard of the problems ayalja123 is having when doing something improperly with the MUX wire? The PURPLE / brown MUX wire in the 07 Charger handles keysense, second starter, and accessory. Installation of the DBALL requires that you tap into this wire.
I didn't tap into the keysense wire. You don't needed for the install of the DB-ALL. I did unhooked the connection to the data wires and the OEM remotes still didn't work.
Posted By: ayalja123
Date Posted: January 31, 2011 at 3:53 PM
The dealer will reprogram the remotes for 50 bucks
Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: January 31, 2011 at 9:37 PM
ayalja123 wrote:
The dealer will reprogram the remotes for 50 bucks
But if your installation/module/etc is causing the problem, reprogramming will not work until the problem is resolved. Assuming the dealer has a truly good tech, and happens to assign the job to that tech, and the tech establishes that your installation is keeping him/her from being able to reprogram the remotes, the dealer will remove it, charging their hourly rate, reprogram the remotes (or at least tell you they did), and charge you for that too.
Those things I listed in the previous posts were some things to check when troubleshooting. Have you tried disconnecting the bypass completely to see if the problems go away? When you say chassis ground, did you put ground to the kick panel, in a spot you removed all paint/primer from?
Again, everything worked before you installed anything...and it stopped right after you installed it...so it's something that was added that is causing the problem. Whether it's a problem with the installation or the parts, it's a problem that did not exist until you tried to install your system. ------------- Installer, IT support, and FFL. I need less hobbies.
Posted By: ayalja123
Date Posted: February 01, 2011 at 7:54 PM
Yes, i did those things you mention on the previous post when i first encounter the problem. I unpluged everything and nothing. But this weekend i will try troubleshooting again maybe i missed something. I think something happend when i was looking for the hi and low cam wires. At first i taped into the wrong wires until i found out what the colors were. That was my biggest mistake assuming i had the right wires without nowing the actual colors.I Won't do that again. I have install many remote starters and some have giving me problems but nothing like this. This is the results of being careless. Thanks for all the inputs. Lucky for me this was for a family members car and not a customer. I will post my results after i troubleshoot again. Thanks again
Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: February 01, 2011 at 8:50 PM
Good Luck, hopefully you find the problem without incurring any fees!! Please do post back the end result.
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Posted By: ayalja123
Date Posted: February 02, 2011 at 6:30 PM
Well here is the update. I couldn't wait till the weekend so i did it today. This thing was in my head 24/7. I checked and unpluged everything and still nothing. I got instructions on how to program the key fob, but that didn't work either. Then i notice the key fobs would work if the key was on the on position. So I figure it has to do with the keyless system not having power to it. And sure enough it was a fuse. Now everything works perfect. I still don't understand how the system was getting power with the key on the on position and no power with the key out. I mean if the fuse was blown how was it getting power on the on position only?wire feedback? I'm just happy is working and i didn't have to spend any money.
Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: February 02, 2011 at 9:09 PM
Glad to hear you got it working.
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Posted By: ayalja123
Date Posted: February 03, 2011 at 8:04 PM
yeah me too. Thanks
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