total window closure wont work

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Topic: total window closure wont work

Posted By: lee_hdi
Subject: total window closure wont work
Date Posted: February 26, 2011 at 6:06 AM

Hi,
I'm trying to install total closure on my peugeot 206 that has a clifford alarm fitted but I can't see why it won't work

Here are the wiring diagrams

Total closure unit

Alarm harnesses

Window diagram

Right this is how I've got it wired up.
Yellow/white on closure unit - goes to a +12v accessory feed
yellow on closure unit - goes to the black and blue wire on the H2 conenctor on the alarm
pink on closure unit - goes to the black and green wire on the H2 connector on the alarm
Brown on closure unit - goes to the black and green wire on the H2 connector on the alarm
Orange on closure unit - goes to the black and blue wire on the h2 connector on the alarm
Blue wire on closure unit - goes to Pin 17 on the H1 connector, ground when armed.

Only installed it on one window at the minute to see if it works.

Both red wires on closure unit - go to a constant +12v
Black wire on closure unit - goes to the ground
Blue and red wire on closure unit - goes to pin three on the window switch (gets a +12v feed when you put the windows down)
Green and red wire on closure unit - goes to pin eight on the window switch (gets a +12v feed when you put the windows up)

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks,
Lee

PS: no doubt Howie will flame me again lol, but you'll be pleased to know I went to the shop for the remote start to get it reprogrammed. Ask them about fitting total closure but no-way am I paying £200 when you can buy the unit for £25

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 26, 2011 at 10:19 AM

Never actually seen this brand so I'm not going to flame you!!!
BUT A DEI 529t would have cost you far less, about £30 retail, is more than adequate, you pick up your up wires at the switches, mount the unit either behind the glove box or under (yes!) the front part of the centre console in front of the gear shift. Four wires to to switches, ground, 12v+ constant and join the 529t orange and ORANGE / black to the alarm's orange GWA wire. So simple done it many times on a 206.
OR a 530t or smart windows 4, either you cut both motor wires on each switch so 8 not 4 to switches and use GWA as above and a spare aux to vent and or lower the windows, works a treat.
Wish I could charge £200 for that sort of job, who and where, I need a laugh.

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Posted By: lee_hdi
Date Posted: February 28, 2011 at 3:04 PM

Its a falcon one - 4 Window Closure (Rollup) Module for Car Alarm on eBay (end time 21-Mar-11 16:13:08 GMT)

I connected the blue wire to the ground when armed so that the windows rolled up when the alarm was activated. As on the diagram it said to connect to the starter/killer which would be the immobilser, but from what I've read you normally connect it to the ground when armed on the alarm.

Tested all the wires today, and here is the readings

Loom that goes to the alarm and doors
-Blue wire from the module connects to the orange wire on the alarm. This wire becomes a earth when the alarm is active.
-Yellow and white wire on the module becomes live when the key is turned to accessory and/or ignition
-Yellow wire receives +12v when unlocking the car
-Brown wires receives +12v when locking the car

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On the window switch there are the following wires
Pin 1 = Brown = +12volt ignition/acc
Pin 2 = Blue/Grey = +12volts when passengers window is put down
Pin 3 = Grey = +12volts when the drivers window is put down
Pin 4 = Thin Blue = illumination on switch
Pin 5 = Orange = +12v when passengers window is put up
Pin 6 = Yellow = earth
Pin 7 = N/A
Pin 8 = Violet = +12volts when drivers window is put up

This is how I've wired the loom from the module to the switch [only wired up to drivers at the minute, to see if it works]
Red = Constant +12v
Black = Earth
Green and Red = wired to violet on switch
Blue and Red = grey on switch

When I probe with the multimeter.....
Postive probe on blue and red, with negative probe on green and red = +12volts when window going down, and -12volts when window going up

Positive probe on green and red with negative on a earth = +12volts when window going up
Postive probe on red and blue with negative on a earth = +12volts when window is going down.

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I didn't get the DEI 529t because I couldn't find one that would control 4 windows, only 2 window verison ones

Thanks,
Lee

Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 28, 2011 at 3:42 PM

Why would you need a 4 window closer on a car that has 2 doors?
Second as soon as you wrote Falcon I lost interest (POS).
Third if you want up and down get a 530t.
That Falcon as I said before is over complicated and over fussy.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Posted By: lee_hdi
Date Posted: March 01, 2011 at 5:17 AM

Because the car has 4 doors with 4 electric windows.

So I would need to have two of those DEI 529t

Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 01, 2011 at 5:27 AM

Yes but still simpler to install than the piece of garbage you've got there.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 01, 2011 at 5:28 AM

Is your vehicle a cabriolet?

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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Posted By: lee_hdi
Date Posted: March 01, 2011 at 5:29 AM

Also for the 530t as that looks the better unit out of the two, do you know anywhere in the UK that stocks it? I can only find it in the States

Posted By: lee_hdi
Date Posted: March 01, 2011 at 5:29 AM

howie ll wrote:

Is your vehicle a cabriolet?

No its a hatchback

Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 01, 2011 at 5:43 AM

Any dealer should be able to order them.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.