07 f250 viper 5901 check up
Printed From: the12volt.com
Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=126524
Printed Date: May 12, 2025 at 3:25 PM
Topic: 07 f250 viper 5901 check up
Posted By: shane.lucero
Subject: 07 f250 viper 5901 check up
Date Posted: March 10, 2011 at 6:58 PM
I'm looking for some assistance on installing my alarm!
I have been doing some research over the past week using the12volt.com forum, reading the Installation Guide , reviewing my Wiring Schematic as prepared by DirectWire, Directed Electronics.
With all of the reseach that I have done , I have created a spread sheet that indicates where everything is to be hooked up. So I was hoping that somebody that has actually installed this system on my same year can give me some input on what I have put together. Also for those that have installed this on thier 2006 F250, this year has a GEM unit and my year, 2007 doesn't, it has what is called a VSM so the wiring is a bit different as it pertains to the Dome Light.
Alarm: Viper 5901 Responder LC3 SuperCode SST 2-Way Security and Remote Start System5702V
Alarm Accessories: 520T Back up battery
Truck: 2007 F250 SD 6.0 L Diesel
Factory Alarm: NO
Keyless Entry: Yes
Progressive Locks: Yes (would like to maintain)
Dome Delay: YES
VSM: YES
GEM: NO
IF anyone would like I can email them my spread sheet where I have all of my notes and comments organized along with the information listed below. Any comments will be greatly appreciated.
Also, I would be willing to share my spread sheet with anyone that is also looking to install this Viper unit on thier 2007 F250.
Primary Harness (H1) , 12-pin Connector H1/2 (+)12V Constant Yellow (30a), Lt grn/pur (30A) wires located at Ignition Harness or Direct to Vehicle Battery (+) 12V Constant Input H1/3 (+) Siren Input (+) Siren Output Located at Siren H1/4 Light Flash Isolation Wire – Pin 87a of onboard relay Connect to Relay (Refer to H1/9) H1/5 Chassis Metal (-) Chassis Ground H1/6 (+) Door Trigger Input Connect to Dome Supervision – (BLACK/ Lt. Blue) Wire Located at Rear of Drivers Door Sill Plate Harness. H1/7 (-) Trunk Pin / Instant Trigger Input (N/C or N/O) Connect to 520T Backup Battery H1/8 (-) Door Trigger Input (N/C or N/O) Not used H1/9 (-)200m Dome Light Output BLACK/ Lt. Blue Wire at Passenger Kick or Cluster. Blue Plug Pin 26 (Relay Required) H1/10 (-) Remote start/turbo timer activation input Push Button H1/11 Parking Light Output Brown Wire Located at Switch or VSM green plug pin2 H1/12 (-) 500mA Ground When Armed Output Not Used Relay Wiring - Dome Light Supervision Pin85 Wired to H1/4 at Viper BLACK/ White (Light Flash -Isolation Wire - Pin 87a of onboard relay) Pin87 Wired to H1/9 at Viper WHITE/ Brown (Domelight Supervision Polarity (+) or (-)) Pin86 Wired to 12V constant Wired to +12V constant Fused Pin30 Wired to Dome Light Supervision Factory Wire (Black / Lt. Blue @ Passenger Kick or cluster, (blu plg, pin 26) Also found in the driver side kick panel on some models. Harness (H2), 18 pin connector H2/1 Factory Alarm Disarm Output Wire to (528T BLACK/ White) (Per Tech Doc 1091) H2/2 (-) 200 mA Auxilary 4 output Not used H2/3 (-) 200 mA OEM Alarm Arm Output Not Used H2/4 (-) 200 mA Auxilary 2 Output Not used H2/5 (-) 200 mA Auxilary 3 Output Not used H2/6 (-) 200mA Auxilary 1 Output Not used H2/7 (-) Diesel wait to Start Wire to 528T Brown wire. (Don’t connect to Factory “Wait to Start”) H2/8 (-) 200mA Horn Honk Output Dark Blue wire at switch or VSM, green plug, pin 6 H2/9 Tachometer Input Wire Don’t connect wire use Virtual tach- Programming Only. H2/10 (-) 200 mA Status Output Not Used H2/11 (-) 200mA Flex Relay Control Output Not Used H2/12 (-) 200mA Accessory Output Not Used H2/13 (-) 200mA Starter Output Not Used H2/14 (-) 200mA Ignition 1 Output Not Used H2/15 N/O or N/C (-) Hood Pin Switch input Under Hood H2/16 (-) 200mA 2nd Status /Rear Defogger Output Not used H2/17 (+) brake shutdown input wire Lt. Green at Break Pedal Switch H2/18 (-) Neutral Safety Switch Input Automatic transmission Wire to Ground (Chassis) Tech Tip 1091 (Diesel wait to start with timer) 528T BLACK/ White Wire to H2/1 GREEN/ Black 528T Brown Wire to H2/7 Gray /Black 528T Orange Not Used 528T Yellow Ground 528T Black Ground 528T Red (+)12v constant Heavy Gauge Remote start, (H3) 10 Pin connector H3/1 (+) Ignition 1 Input/Output Red / Lt. Green at Ignition Harness H3/2 (+) Fused (30A) Ignition 2 / Flex Relay Input 87 (+) 12v constant H3/3 (+) Accessory Output Accessory 1 -Grey / YELLOW and RED / Black wires located at Ignition Harness. Question: Will a relay be necessary if there are two Acc. 1 wires? H3/4 (+) Starter output (car side of the starter kill) Dk. Green at Ignition Harness H3/5 (+) starter input (key side of the starter kill wire) Dk. Green at Ignition Harness H3/6 (+) fused (30a) ignition 1 Input (+) 12v constant H3/7 (+) Ignition 2 / Flex Relay Output Accessory 2-dk. Blue/Lt. Green at Ignition Harness H3/9 (+) Fused (30a) Accessory/Starter Input (+) 12v constant H3/10 N/C Not Used Door Lock Harness, 3-Pin Connector (Type-A: Three-wire (+) pulse) 1 (-) 500 mA Unlock Output Pink / Black at Driver Kick or VSM, Gray Plug, Pin 1 2 Empty Not Used 3 (-) 500mA Lock Output Red / Orange Driver Kick or VSM, Gray Plug, Pin 7
[END]
Replies:
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: March 10, 2011 at 7:19 PM
Both Bulldog and Audiovox list 2 Ignition wires and two Accessory wires. Best to verify this with a DMM. And yes, use a 30/40 Amp SPDT relay for ACC2. Wire as follows: Relay Pin 86 and 87 to +12v constant fused at 20 Amps Relay Pin 85 to Viper H2/12 Relay Pin 87a not used - insulate Relay Pin 30 to ACC2 at F250 ignition harness
Did you verify that your truck does not have the PATS immobilizer? ( Some do. )
If Virtual Tach does not work properly, here is Diesel Tach info from Bulldog: On DIESEL Engines the TACH wire is a LIGHT GREEN / WHITE wire in a 5-Pin Harness held up with WHITE tape located behind the Parking Brake Release. ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: shane.lucero
Date Posted: March 10, 2011 at 7:51 PM
Thanks for the reply, I greatly appreciate it.
What is throwing me off is that the DEI Wiring lists the following:
ACC-1 (Grey / YELLOW and RED / Black)
ACC-2 (Blue/ Lt. Green)
This would be three wires?- That's what is throwing me off.
H3/3 (+) Accessory Output Accessory 1 -Grey / YELLOW and RED / Black wires located at Ignition Harness. Question: Will a relay be necessary if there are two Acc. 1 wires? H3/7 (+) Ignition 2 / Flex Relay Output Accessory 2-dk. Blue/Lt. Green at Ignition Harness
If it is determined that ACC-1 has two wires, I will wire in a Relay as you have indicated. I will test these wire to see if there truly are two wires for ACC-1.
That's strange that Bulldog and Audivox lists 2 ignitions and Direct Wire indicates only one, I will have to look into that.
PATS- I'm not 100% Certain that my truck has a PATS- I will verify when I start the installation. I'm prepared because I have purchased the XPRESS PKFM just in case it is needed. The wiring directions are very clear for that unit.
Was there anything else that caught your attention? Dome Light supervision Relay wiring? Anything else?
Thanks
Also, the
Posted By: shane.lucero
Date Posted: March 11, 2011 at 11:14 PM
Anybody Else, have any input?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 12, 2011 at 5:48 AM
If your dome light comes on either when you manually unlock or through keyless entry you won't need domelight supervision.
Also and I'm sure Kreg knows better but using a POS door trigger?
Asking questions about the number of ignition wires is moot; read my bye-line.
------------- Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: March 12, 2011 at 7:49 AM
Some more info confirming the door lock info in my previous P.M.
2007 F250 Door Locks
Vehicles with keyless entry, the lock wire is WHITE/ red (-), in the driver kick, door harness or also at the VSM, gray plug, pin 3. The VSM (Vehicle Security Module) is to the right of the accelerator pedal above the transmission hump below the radio. Not accessible from radio opening.
Vehicles with keyless entry, the unlock wire is BLACK/ white (-), in the driver kick, door harness or also at the VSM, gray plug, pin 2. The VSM (Vehicle Security Module) is to the right of the accelerator pedal above the transmission hump below the radio. Not accessible from radio opening. Vehicles with keyless entry the VSM shuts down after the doors have been locked for a certain time period, to wake up the system refer to Tech Doc 1094. ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 12, 2011 at 9:59 AM
This might give you some pointers: Profile Kevin Pierson, look at his posts, about 3 years ago the post is started by him so it's quite easy to find, page 6 I believe, Viper 5901 R/S in an 05 F150.
There are photos galore.
------------- Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: shane.lucero
Date Posted: March 21, 2011 at 6:59 PM
Thanks for everyone's input-- The alarm is working good. However, I'm having an issue with running my battery out of juice.
When I leave the Heater or vent on after I shut off the truck the heater or vent continues to run, therefore running my battery out of juice. If I turn of the Heater or Vent before I shut down the truck there is no issue with my battery running down. I have included the wiring diagram as it is currently installed.
Also, I have tested the Wiring Harness and have determined the following: 1-Ignition wire / 3-Accessory wires / 4-(+) 12v wires
Ignition Wiring harness RED / Black- Accessory #1 wired directly into Viper alarm with built in relay RED / Lt. Green- Ignition Gray / YELLOW- Accessory #3 wired into Relay Yellow- (+)12V Yellow- (+)12v Blue/Orange- (+)12v Blue/Lt. Green- Accessory #2 wired directly into viper alarm with built in relay GREEN/ Purple- (+)12v
Primary Harness (H1) , 12-pin Connector H1/2 (+)12V Constant (+) 12V Constant Input GREEN/ Purple at Ignition Harness H1/3 (+) Siren Input (+) Siren Output Located at Siren H1/4 Light Flash Isolation Wire Not Connected H1/5 Chassis Metal (-) Chassis Ground H1/6 (+) Door Trigger Input Connect to Dome Supervision – (BLACK/ Lt. Blue) Wire Located at Rear of Drivers Door Sill Plate Harness. H1/7 (-) Trunk Pin / Instant Trigger Input (N/C or N/O) Not Used H1/8 (-) Door Trigger Input (N/C or N/O) Not used H1/9 (-)200m Dome Light Output Not used H1/10 (-) Remote start/turbo timer activation input Not Used H1/11 Parking Light Output Brown Wire Located at VSM green plug pin2 H1/12 (-) 500mA Ground When Armed Output Not Used Harness (H2), 18 pin connector H2/1 Factory Alarm Disarm Output Wire to (528T BLACK/ White) (Per Tech Doc 1091) H2/2 (-) 200 mA Auxilary 4 output Not used H2/3 (-) 200 mA OEM Alarm Arm Output Not Used H2/4 (-) 200 mA Auxilary 2 Output Not used H2/5 (-) 200 mA Auxilary 3 Output Not used H2/6 (-) 200mA Auxilary 1 Output Not used H2/7 (-) Diesel wait to Start Wire to 528T Brown wire. (Don’t connect to Factory “Wait to Start”) H2/8 (-) 200mA Horn Honk Output Dark Blue wire at VSM, green plug, pin 6 H2/9 Tachometer Input Wire Don’t connect wire use Virtual tach- Programming Only. H2/10 (-) 200 mA Status Output Not Used H2/11 (-) 200mA Flex Relay Control Output Not Used H2/12 (-) 200mA Accessory Output Accessory #3 Wired to PIN 85 Relay H2/13 (-) 200mA Starter Output Not Used H2/14 (-) 200mA Ignition 1 Output Not Used H2/15 N/O or N/C (-) Hood Pin Switch input Under Hood Pin Switch H2/16 (-) 200mA 2nd Status /Rear Defogger Output Not used H2/17 (+) brake shutdown input wire Lt. Green at Break Pedal Switch H2/18 (-) Neutral Safety Switch Input Automatic transmission Wire to Ground (Chassis) Tech Tip 1091 (Diesel wait to start with timer) 528T BLACK/ White Wire to H2/1 GREEN/ Black 528T Brown Wire to H2/7 Gray /Black 528T Orange Not Used 528T Yellow Ground 528T Black Ground 528T Red (+)12v constant Heavy Gauge Remote start, (H3) 10 Pin connector H3/1 (+) Ignition 1 Input/Output Red / Lt. Green at Ignition Harness H3/2 (+) Fused (30A) Ignition 2 / Flex Relay Input 87 (+) 12v constant (Yellow) H3/3 (+) Accessory Output Accessory 1 -RED / Black H3/4 (+) Starter output (car side of the starter kill) Dk. Green at Ignition Harness H3/5 (+) starter input (key side of the starter kill wire) Dk. Green at Ignition Harness H3/6 (+) fused (30a) ignition 1 Input (+) 12v constant H3/7 (+) Ignition 2 / Flex Relay Output Accessory 2-dk. Blue/Lt. Green at Ignition Harness
H3/9 (+) Fused (30a) Accessory/Starter Input (+) 12v constant GREEN/ Purple at Ignition Harness H3/10 N/C Not Used
Relay Wiring Accessory #3 Pin30 Grey / YELLOW at Ignition Harness Pin 85 (Not Used) Pin 86 (+12v) at Ignition harness Pin 87 (+12v) at Ignition harness
Door Lock Harness, 3-Pin Connector (Type-A: Three-wire (+) pulse) 1 (-) 500 mA Unlock Output Pink / Black at Driver Kick or VSM, Gray Plug, Pin 1 2 Empty Not Used 3 (-) 500mA Lock Output Red / Orange Driver Kick or VSM, Gray Plug, Pin 7
|