2008 caliber remote start

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Topic: 2008 caliber remote start

Posted By: jeremyj
Subject: 2008 caliber remote start
Date Posted: March 10, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Ok I am at my wits end with this, and desperate for any help.
I have a 2008 Dodge Caliber and bought the Fortin EVO-CHR T2 and a Python Responder One 2-way remote start.
I first followed the instructions for installing the Fortin. Was pretty straight forward and it works as expected. I then installed the remote start as the Fortin's instructions detail.
Here are the wires I connected

Blue (-) status output from RS to blue (-) while running input on EVO-CHR
Violet/white tach input on RS to pink tach output on on EVO-CHR
Brown (+) brake shutdown to orange brake status on EVO-CHR
Grey hood pin shutdown on RS to hood pin
Black ground on RS to ground on vehicle
Both red 12V inputs on RS to constant 12V source on vehicle
Pink ignition output on RS to yellow ignition input on EVO-CHR
Purple starter output on RS to light blue/black starter input on EVO-CHR
Blue unlock on RS to PURPLE / white unlock on EVO-CHR
Green lock on RS to purple lock on EVO-CHR
BLACK/ white neutral safety shutdown on RS to ground

Alright, I have everything connected. I used a volt meter to check both powers and ground. Both show 12 volts. When I press the remote start button I can hear the satellite relay inside the brain tripping back and forth. When I put the volt meter on the purple starter wire it shows no voltage when I press the button.

I assume theres some safety feature that is tripped that I am missing, but I have been through it over and over and cannot figure it out. Please any advice would help so much!

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Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: March 10, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Did you hook up parking lights yet? These can help in diagnosing some problems. The clicking could be just the parking light relay telling you why it doesn't want to start.

What does your DMM tell you when you probe the pink/black on the Fortin piece (the one that connects to gray on the DEI piece)?

Did the Fortin piece indicate that it programmed correctly?

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Installer, IT support, and FFL. I need less hobbies.

Posted By: jeremyj
Date Posted: March 10, 2011 at 9:25 PM

I did not hook up the parking lights yet because there is no where in the installation guide that shows using the parking lights in diagnosing.
I accidentally highlighted that pink/black wire on the Fortin, I did not connect that wire.
Yes, the programming on the Fortin indicated it was right, with the Fortin installed I can still start, unlock, and lock the doors. So that has to be working.

As a side note, I did have this working when I quickly hooked everything up. The problem started after I routed all the wires through the car. After it wouldn't start I took all the wires out again and connected it quickly again, but still nothing.

I will try hooking up the volt meter to the parking light output and see if it registers any volts.

Posted By: jeremyj
Date Posted: March 10, 2011 at 9:50 PM

Update,

You were correct, the relay tripping was the the parking lights. It blinks 5 times.

Posted By: jeremyj
Date Posted: March 10, 2011 at 9:54 PM

Sorry, I hit the post button too soon....

Googling the 5 blinking lights shows that the hood switch ground is tripping. This should be impossible as that is a ground and I currently do not have it hooked up so it has nothing to ground to.

Posted By: lspker
Date Posted: March 10, 2011 at 10:49 PM

is your pink/black hooked up and your hood open?

Posted By: jeremyj
Date Posted: March 11, 2011 at 8:19 AM

No the pink black is not hooked up, but it never was and I got it to start before.
The hood is open yes, but that should not matter because I do not have the hood safety switch installed yet. It is a ground, so as long as it's not touching the frame of the car it should not trip, and as far as I can tell the car it's self doesnt have a switch either.

Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: March 11, 2011 at 9:42 AM

If it is blinking 5 times, the gray wire on the RS is seeing ground.

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Installer, IT support, and FFL. I need less hobbies.

Posted By: jeremyj
Date Posted: March 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM

It cannot be touching a ground. I can hold the wire in my hand far away from the car and this is what the remote start does.

Is there anything that could cause the brain to trip this ground wrongly? because there is no way that the grey hood wire is grounded.

Posted By: moonliter
Date Posted: March 11, 2011 at 10:42 AM

sorry, I thought it was the brake problem, it blinks 5 times, so edited this post.

Posted By: jeremyj
Date Posted: March 11, 2011 at 10:47 AM

Will try when I go on lunch!

Posted By: Mark Mizenko
Date Posted: March 11, 2011 at 1:38 PM

If you hold the button down too long, it will do a CarFinder and flash the lights 5 times.

Posted By: jeremyj
Date Posted: March 11, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Alright update...

During lunch somehow got it started once when I removed the brake shutdown wires. But after I turned the keys to run and removed them the car stayed on. It would only shut off after I pushed the remote start button again. And it wouldn't start a second time.

As fir the known problem of the hood shutdown wire. Using the volt meter it shows .09 volts, and when I try starting it it moves to .1 volts.

I tried connecting the pink/black wire from the fortin to the grey hood shutdown. Still nothing. This was all with my hood shut. Does anyone have any idea how to open this hood shutdown circuit?

Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: March 11, 2011 at 2:21 PM

My suggestion would be to not use the bypass for brake and hood triggers, hard wire them. The vehicle's brake wire, is a dark GREEN / WHITE wire that can be found at the pedal switch. Run your own pin switch under the hood.

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Installer, IT support, and FFL. I need less hobbies.

Posted By: moonliter
Date Posted: March 11, 2011 at 3:45 PM

It appears to me that the connections of the installation might have a problem ( loose ). You want to make sure the ground wire is properly connected to the chasis and all other connections are soldered.

Regarding the hood & brake wires, do what Twelvoltz had suggested.

Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 13, 2011 at 11:11 AM

Where did you attach your MUX wire to ? You have to install the relay as per the instructions as well as the STARTER wire because the Caliber has a start wire. Also, what firmware is the EVO-CHR ? Are you using this wire diagram : https://ifar.ca/en/download/2977/preview.html

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA