alarm/remote start, 2002 pontiac sunfire
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=126947
Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 9:17 PM
Topic: alarm/remote start, 2002 pontiac sunfire
Posted By: twistable_deer
Subject: alarm/remote start, 2002 pontiac sunfire
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 4:57 PM
hi, i bought a prostart remote starter for my 2002 Pontiac sunfire and i was wondering why it does not what to unlock or lock the car, the lights flash and everything but nothing happens. do i need a relay to unlock?
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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 5:41 PM
Here is a link to Bulldog Security for wiring info : https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.asp
Depending on whether or not the car came with Factory Keyless Entry, you will have either Type A or Type C
door locks. Bulldog Note : NOTE *1 if vehicle is WITHOUT Factory Keyless entry it is a TYPE C Door
Locking system and MUST be tested from the PASSENGER SWITCH, if vehicle has Factory keyless Entry it is
a TYPE A Door Locking System.
Here is some info on wiring the locks:
Type A Three Wire Positive : https://www.circuitbuddy.net/products.htm
Type C REV : https://www.the12volt.com/doorlocks/page3.asp#5w
If your remote starter unit only outputs a (-) lock / unlock pulse, you will need relays and a inline fuse.
Other options include a bypass module that does both the Passlock2 immobilizer and the door locks or a
DEI 451m relay module for the door locks. ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 7:35 PM
If your car is non keyless, it is easily done with 2 relays as a reversal 5 wire circuit. If it's keyless, again 2 relays will be needed but wired differently. We just need to know which one you have.
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Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
26 Years of experience counts
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Posted By: twistable_deer
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 7:36 PM
so where do i get those relays?
Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 7:44 PM
Any electronic store or autoglass shop. In canada, their worth about $5 to $8 each. Get them with 12" harnesses. Do you have keyless or not?
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Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
26 Years of experience counts
I'm here to help.
Posted By: twistable_deer
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 7:47 PM
no, it only unlocks, locks and opens my trunk. it also has a panic button.
Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 7:50 PM
So you do have a keyless GM remote! Right?
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Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
26 Years of experience counts
I'm here to help.
Posted By: twistable_deer
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 7:52 PM
yes i guess it unlocks/locks my car
Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 8:03 PM
So this is the way you'll wire your relays. I'm giving you the lock relay, just repeat for unlock.
85= lock wire from remote brown (-)
86 & 87= +12V (Fused 10amps)
30= lock wire from car (Driver kick panel)(+) Light Blue
Repeat for unlock
unlock from remote starter= Green (-)
unlock from car= White (+)
The relays you'll get are rated at 30 amps and the pin numbers are written on the relay itself. Make sure that you fuse you relays, one 10 amps fuse will do for both relays as you will wire all 86 & 87 pins together to the fuse.
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Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
26 Years of experience counts
I'm here to help.
Posted By: twistable_deer
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 8:08 PM
so the 85, 86, 87, and 30 will be the relay i would have to buy? sorry i am new to this
Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 8:33 PM
yep...30amps 5 pins relay used in the automotive business.
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Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
26 Years of experience counts
I'm here to help.
Posted By: twistable_deer
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 8:37 PM
i actually have a relay handy but the middle pin says 87a so i was wondering if i could use it. this relay actually can from the remote starter kit i bought for the car it was the starter kill relay but i wasn't going to use it anyways so do you think i could use it
Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 8:43 PM
No, pin 87a is the normally closed circuit. If your relay doesn't have the 87 pin, you won't be able to use it. Sorry.
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Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
26 Years of experience counts
I'm here to help.
Posted By: twistable_deer
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 8:45 PM
yes it has 87 and 87a
Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 8:48 PM
ok then, you can make a test with lock and wire it like I described before...you won't use the 87a pin at all...
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Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
26 Years of experience counts
I'm here to help.
Posted By: twistable_deer
Date Posted: April 14, 2011 at 6:13 PM
hi, i have a 3 in 1 remote starter which has an alarm and a shock sensor but when the car is unlocked the alarm still goes off, can anyone comment? by the way my car is a 2002 Pontiac Sunfire GT.
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