viper 5902 hoodpin problem
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Topic: viper 5902 hoodpin problem
Posted By: jamaags2011
Subject: viper 5902 hoodpin problem
Date Posted: May 11, 2011 at 9:19 PM
I just installed a viper5902 in my 2004 jeep TJ, 5speed. I also installed the 508d and 520t. The alarm functions work great but I can't get it into mts mode so that I can use the r/s function. When I try to set into mts, after I release the brake and press a button and activate remote start, i am supposed to turn key off and it should stay running. Instead it shuts down and I get 6 flashes, telling me there is a problem
With the hood. The hood pin triggers the alarm so I know it is grounding properly. Is there something I am missing?
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Posted By: pitoaudiovisual
Date Posted: May 12, 2011 at 11:22 AM
did u connect the tach wire
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Posted By: jamaags2011
Date Posted: May 12, 2011 at 12:11 PM
Yes, sorry, the tach is connected, parking brake is also. I just went over every connection to triple check, and everything is connected that should be and is working properly. I have done the tach learning procedure. I set mine to option 4(tach). Should I change this setting maybe?
Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: May 13, 2011 at 5:24 AM
have you disconnected the pin switch and tried the procedure?
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Posted By: jamaags2011
Date Posted: May 13, 2011 at 7:54 AM
Ok, so I just tried disconnecting the pin switch and I am getting the same result, but the first flash is a really fast one so I'm not sure if I am getting 5 or 6 flashes. 5 would be something to do with the brake pedal. Not sure how that would cause an issue because in order it activate remote start in MTS mode I have to press and release the brake, and I can activate, I just can't remove the key and keep it running.
Posted By: jamaags2011
Date Posted: May 13, 2011 at 9:15 AM
Sorry to bump, but in all my reading I never really got a clear answer whether or not the r/s activation wire (h1/10) should be connected. I left it disconnected because as I understood it's for remote starting from a different source. Am I confused with this?
Posted By: ac0j
Date Posted: May 13, 2011 at 9:30 PM
The rs activation wire will start the car if grounded either 1,2,or 3 times (depending how you program it) So you could hook it to the factory lock wire, and when you press lock on a factory remote 1,2, or3 times... it will start the car. It is not needed for the remote start to function normally.
Posted By: jamaags2011
Date Posted: May 13, 2011 at 9:52 PM
Thats makes sense, the 2004 jeep TJ didnt come with factory door locks so that won't work. The error flashes 6 times telling me it's the hood pin problem.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 14, 2011 at 7:05 AM
Have you tried grounding the BLACK/ white neutral safety switch, also program it for manual transmission?
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Posted By: jamaags2011
Date Posted: May 14, 2011 at 1:09 PM
It comes programmed for manual as a default, but i just double checked to be sure, and it is. As far as the BLACK/ white wire, that is connected to the parking brake wire that test negative when ebrake is applied, isnt that correct?
Posted By: jamaags2011
Date Posted: May 14, 2011 at 1:14 PM
sorry, to add to this, as for the error flashes, i had my buddy watch for the flashes and he counted 6. unfortunately when putting jeep into MTS mode the parking lights are on, and when i would tell him to count he would see this and count it is one flash(if that makes sense). Basically he say them on then shut off and counted it as one, but it really isnt a flash, so there are only 5 flashes which is a brake(+) issue. i will try to ground the neutral BLACK/ white wire instead of using the parking brake.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 14, 2011 at 2:39 PM
Check the wire connecting your unit to the footbrake, there should be 0v on this rising to 12v when you press the brake.
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Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: May 14, 2011 at 7:46 PM
Also, if you have some towing wiring done on this vehicle, check your wiring out back to see if you have corroded contacts. This can create some problems with remote starters and the brake input.
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Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: May 15, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Have you disconnected the brake wire and tried the procedure? Did u plug in the inline safety switch and set it to the on position?
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Posted By: jamaags2011
Date Posted: May 15, 2011 at 2:31 PM
I read somewhere that using the dome light for a door trigger will not work with remote start applications but will for alarm function alone, due to the dome delay. Not sure how this may/may not affect anything but I ended up changing my door trigger to the (-)door triggers of the jeep and diode isolated. This didnt fix the problem but it's one thing ruled out I guess. The switch is set to on, and I need the brake wire connected to do the procedure. I am gonna look into the tow wires. I had a tail light go out not long ago and it was a broken/corroded wire behind the light whichthe tow wires are right there also. I will report back, thanks for all the help.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 15, 2011 at 3:28 PM
Absolutely untrue.
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Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: May 15, 2011 at 4:37 PM
What is untrue Howie....domelight connection? One thing that I would is to install a relay on the foot brake. If you have unwanted voltage/current feedbacking on the line, it's probably not enough to trigger the relay unless you press on the brake pedal.
U1 is a 1 amp diode
 ------------- Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
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I'm here to help.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 15, 2011 at 5:25 PM
Point taken S But I meant the first line about the dome light
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Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: May 15, 2011 at 6:34 PM
That is what I understood Howie, just wanted to confirm. One thing that just flashed me, the other day, I did a Toyota Yaris with no door locks, for the Viper to get into ready mode, we needed to simulate unlocking the door using the viper remote for it to get ready. I know that Compustar are like that but it was actually my first experience with a DEI product. It's true that there's not that many vehicle with no PDL. When I get a problem with either park brake or door pin issues, I don't waiste time on troubleshooting, I install relays and it solves my problem 9 out of 10.
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Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
26 Years of experience counts
I'm here to help.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 16, 2011 at 2:28 AM
Absolutely agree, I buy mini 5amp relays from R/S (= Farnell or Mouser) at about 70 cents each bulk, diode the coil and give them DEI colours, always have a work around that way You might need them for mirror folds, lighting always have about 100 x 4004s and about 50 5404s + about 4-8 relays.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
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