viper 3203, avital 4003l, 95 bmw e36 m3

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: viper 3203, avital 4003l, 95 bmw e36 m3

Posted By: elninoloco7
Subject: viper 3203, avital 4003l, 95 bmw e36 m3
Date Posted: June 06, 2011 at 1:25 PM

So i have a BMW which is prewired for Alarm System. Everything is wired up correctly but i then got stuck on just to cables left from my BMW Pre-Wired harness.

I am stuck on the Door Lock/Unlock section where it talks about
BLACK/ White Domelight Supervison relay Input #87
WHITE/ Black Lock #87a Normally Closed
GREEN/ Black Lock #30 Common (Output)
Violet/Black Lock #87 Normally Open (Input)
BROWN / Black Unlock #87a Normally Closed
Blue/Black Unlock #30 Common (Output)
Violet Unlock #87 Normally Open (Input)

The only two cables coming out are says 12v Lock (+) and 12v unlock (+). The car does have factory actuators built in to the doors.

Where do i connect the remaining two cables on to the list above?

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Posted By: elninoloco7
Date Posted: June 06, 2011 at 1:28 PM

I'm sorry it does NOT have the domesuper vision wire... its just:

WHITE/ Black Lock #87a Normally Closed
GREEN/ Black Lock #30 Common (Output)
Violet/Black Lock #87 Normally Open (Input)
BROWN / Black Unlock #87a Normally Closed
Blue/Black Unlock #30 Common (Output)
Violet Unlock #87 Normally Open (Input)

The Violet two cables join into ONE from a Fuse.

Posted By: thecoolmankyle7
Date Posted: June 06, 2011 at 2:40 PM

Your alarm has built in relays. The two violet wires that go to a fuse need to go to a constant 12v supply ( your vehicle has positive triggers ) you will not use the WHITE/ black or BROWN / black. And the GREEN/ black is lock and blue/black is unlock. That should get you going.

Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: June 06, 2011 at 4:32 PM

What BMW is this, the lock triggers have changed polarity over the years.
You won't need to worry about dome supervision on E36 and E46 it's built in to the locking system.

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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Posted By: elninoloco7
Date Posted: June 06, 2011 at 6:13 PM

yea i figured i out thanks guys.

Its an e36 M3

Posted By: elninoloco7
Date Posted: June 17, 2011 at 12:10 AM

So i installed a Viper 3203 successfully a week or so ago. I ordered the Avital 4003L so i can have the Remote Start Capability with my Viper (essentially now its a viper 5701). The wiring on the Avital is exactly that of any other DEI remote start wiring.

I just finished soldering all cables...but when i hit remote start..the car attempts to start but never does.

I have a DEI Immobilizer bypass...but i know that works because i when i disconnected that then tried Remote Start..it wouldn't crank at all..so that's not it.

I went to the troubleshoot page and according in the Install Manual it said to Put key in RUN but DONT start car....start from Remote...and that actually worked..i took my keys out and it was still on...(turned off after hitting remote start button)..so if this happened the Manual said retest ignition system...that some cables may be connected backwards..i thought my cables were connected correctly....

I wired up my 1995 BMW according to this diagram found on this website

H3:
Function--- alarm wire---------------------vehicle wire

(+)Ignition 1Input/ouput --- pink ------ Pin 2 of Alarm Plug (PreWired Alarm System)

(30a Fused Igntion 2/ Flex relay Input 87--- RED / wht----- 12v Constant(RED / White or Red on ignition harness)

Accessory Output----------------------------------orange--------------------------Green of Ignition Harness

(+) Starter Output (car side starter kill wire)---violet--------------------------BLACK / YELLOW of Ignition harness

(+) Starter Input (key side starter Kill wire)---green-------------------------BLACK / YELLOW of Ignition harness

(+)fused(30a) Ignition Input-----------------------red----------------------------12v Constant(RED / White or Red on ignition harness)

(+)Ignition 2/Flex Relay Output-------------------pnk/wht----------------------PURPLE / White or Purple of Ignition harness

Flex Relay input 87a key side(if req) of Flx Relay--pink/blk-------------------not connected

Fused (30A) Accessory/Starter Input---------------RED / blk---------------------12v Constant(RED / White or Red on ignition harness)

Any issues i may have done? .... I did wire up the two 12v constant from the remote start to a single 12v constant to the ignition harness...can this be a problem of not giving it enough juice?

Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: June 17, 2011 at 7:47 AM

Pink to light green at ignition loom.
Don't use the accessory output.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: June 17, 2011 at 8:10 AM

Also obtain a valet key for that car and use that in the by-pass. I'm assuming you're using a 556UW, if so follow the section on European cars and don't use the antenna loop, cut and join.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Posted By: elninoloco7
Date Posted: June 17, 2011 at 11:56 AM

Awesome that was my problem...I connected the Pink to the Main green instead of using the Alarm harness.....Sweet it works thank you very much.