06 ram 1500, viper remote start
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Topic: 06 ram 1500, viper remote start
Posted By: sullivan91
Subject: 06 ram 1500, viper remote start
Date Posted: July 23, 2011 at 3:52 PM
I have the alarm portion installed, im really confused about the remote start portion. I have the relay, and a few wires left.
I am using the viper alarm and remote start all in one deal, with the CHALL and CHTH2.
Oh and another thing, I just recently installed LED tail lights after the alarm. When I lock the truck, a few seconds after I get a DOOR OPEN warning. No doors open. It only happened after the led tail light install. I seem to think the resistors they used are creating a different resistance in the wires. :( any help would be great!
Thanks
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Posted By: peanutskeeter
Date Posted: July 25, 2011 at 1:32 AM
I removed my LED taillights from my RAM they were constantly going out. There is a good possibility that the resistors inline with the LEDs on the tail lights are causing some issues. Otherwise it should be your bypass module you want to take a look at. It should monitor your door inputs.
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Posted By: sullivan91
Date Posted: July 25, 2011 at 3:29 AM
What about the remote start connections. I am lost on those.
Posted By: co_ne_dub
Date Posted: July 30, 2011 at 10:40 AM
What color and gauge wires do you have left?
Are they on the heavy gauge harness?
Posted By: sullivan91
Date Posted: August 03, 2011 at 4:44 PM
I havent cut into the ignition harness, do I need to even though I purchased the CHTH2 cable? I thought that was the purpose of that cable.
I have hooked the heavy gauged pink wire up to another wire, that is the only one.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: August 04, 2011 at 9:21 AM
Do you have the Viper connected to the CHALL via the D2D harness or with W2W connections?
Just follow the Type E or F installation instructions, depending on the connection mode above.
The CHALL & CHTH2 does not do all the necessary wiring. You will still need to add the MUX relay and the Viper Starter Output to the truck ignition connector. Wire colors as follows :
2006 Dodge RAM Igntion Connector
Start Dark GREEN/ YELLOW
Ignition Pink/White
MUX Violet/Brown
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Posted By: sullivan91
Date Posted: August 04, 2011 at 5:32 PM
I have it wired up with the D2D harness. Now this is where I am confused, I have to use the MUX and a relay and I get lost with the connections.
There is 5 pins and I have no clue what to connect on the relay.
I have a 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 Crew Cab.
As for those last connections, I still need to do those.
Thanks for the help so far, I hope with a little more I can finish this project up.
Lastly, I just installed LED tails and they are messing with the alarm now. After I lock the truck, I get a door open error. I believe resistors or something in the lights are screwing with the system. How could I fix this.
Posted By: sullivan91
Date Posted: August 04, 2011 at 6:11 PM
kreg357 wrote:
Do you have the Viper connected to the CHALL via the D2D harness or with W2W connections?
Just follow the Type E or F installation instructions, depending on the connection mode above.
The CHALL & CHTH2 does not do all the necessary wiring. You will still need to add the MUX relay and the Viper Starter Output to the truck ignition connector. Wire colors as follows :
2006 Dodge RAM Igntion Connector
Start Dark GREEN/ YELLOW
Ignition Pink/White
MUX Violet/Brown
And what do you mean follow the type e or f installation instructions. I DO NOT have those, please upload.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: August 04, 2011 at 6:36 PM
Here is the DEI CHALL Install Guide : https://www.xpresskit.com/DocumentDownload.aspx?documentid=6876&productid=448&firmwareid=1637
CHALL with CHTH2 Harness D2D to Viper 5901 to 2006 RAM 1500
Viper 5901 30/40A SPDT Relay RAM ignition connector CHALL
H3/4 Violet N/A Start Dark GREEN/ YELLOW + Conn2 Light Bule/Black
H3/7 Pink/White N/A Ignition Pink/White N/A
BLUE (-)200mA Status Output Pin 85 N/A N/A
N/A Pin 87 N/A Conn2 WHITE/ Black
N/A Pin 86 +12V Constant N/A
N/A Pin 87A MUX Cut Violet/Brown Connector side N/A
N/A Pin 30 MUX Cut Violet/Brown Vehicle side N/A
H3/1 Pink Not Used
H3/2 RED / White +12V constant
H3/3 Orange Not Used
H3/5 Green Not Used
H3/6 Red +12V Constant
H3/8 Pink/Black Not Used
H3/9 RED / Black +12V Constant
The relay pins ( terminals ) should be marked. If not, use the CHALL diagram or the Figure 1 diagram at this link as a reference : https://www.the12volt.com/relays/relays.asp ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: sullivan91
Date Posted: August 04, 2011 at 6:57 PM
Ill let you know how the install goes, waiting for the 100 temp to drop.
Posted By: sullivan91
Date Posted: August 04, 2011 at 10:55 PM
Ok so guess what, I did all of the connections as you state.
However, I connected H3/2,H3/3,H3/9 and the relay +12b constant all in the same connection and wired it to the positive terminal on the battery.
My alarm is no longer giving a door open when I lock it.
But the remote start portion still doesn't start when I press the button. It says remote start error. Do I need to reprogram the chall now that I have these new connections wired?
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: August 05, 2011 at 7:21 AM
Actually, it's H3/2, H3/6, H3/9 and H1/2 that go to +12V constant ( the battery is a good place on that vehicle ).
There are several common install oversights. ( Assuming Auto Trans. )
1.) Did you change Menu 3, Item 1 to Opt 2 if your truck has an automatic trans?
2.) Did you change Menu 3, Item 2 to Opt 4 and do the Tach Learn Process? ( D2D two way should
supply a tach signal.)
3.) Did you run the Neutral Safety wire to Chassis ground and place the Neutral Safety Switch in the
ON position?
4.) Is the hood open? ( Assuming you installed the Hood Pin safety. ) Don't laugh, we've all done it. 
You will have to reprogram the CHALL to the vehicle again if you did not have the Viper H3/4 Violet and
the CHALL Conn2 Light Bule/Black wire connected to the vehicles Start Dark GREEN/ YELLOW at the ignition
switch connector when you previously programmed it. Be advised that the CHALL can only be programmed 5 times...
What error did the Viper display? If you are still having problems, do the Remote Start Shutdown Diagnostics for the exact cause.
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Posted By: sullivan91
Date Posted: August 05, 2011 at 9:36 AM
I still need to wire the neutral saftey to the ground, I have an automatic.
As for these:
1.) Did you change Menu 3, Item 1 to Opt 2 if your truck has an automatic trans?
2.) Did you change Menu 3, Item 2 to Opt 4 and do the Tach Learn Process? ( D2D two way should
supply a tach signal.)
3.) Did you run the Neutral Safety wire to Chassis ground and place the Neutral Safety Switch in the
ON position?
What do you mean change Menu 3, Item 1 Opt 2 and so for the other one. Are these in the manual? lol sorry im just confused
Posted By: sullivan91
Date Posted: August 05, 2011 at 10:30 AM
I think Im getting shut down wire error codes...
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: August 05, 2011 at 3:59 PM
While I don't see it in this post, if I remember correctly you have the Viper 5901. Here is a link to the Viper 5901 Installation Guide : https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=741 If you have the new style 5901 there could be some differences in the harness configuration but the wire names and colors remain the same. The programming tables are the same also.
The install guide has all the info but requires carefull reading. The Menu Option Programming Tables start on page 41. ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: sullivan91
Date Posted: August 05, 2011 at 4:26 PM
kreg357 wrote:
While I don't see it in this post, if I remember correctly you have the Viper 5901. Here is a link to the Viper 5901 Installation Guide : https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=741 If you have the new style 5901 there could be some differences in the harness configuration but the wire names and colors remain the same. The programming tables are the same also.
The install guide has all the info but requires carefull reading. The Menu Option Programming Tables start on page 41.
Alright cool deal, now that I have the manual I will give it another go.
As for reprogramming the chall, im confused. Do I just reconnect all the wires and hold down the button. I couldn't get it to begin programming mode again. Ive only programmed it once.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: August 05, 2011 at 4:53 PM
PM with info sent...
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Soldering is fun!
Posted By: sullivan91
Date Posted: August 05, 2011 at 6:50 PM
Ok we are making progress. I triple checked all my wires and everything is wired up as it should I think, reprogrammed the chall.
Now when I hit the remote start, the inside electronics turn on (a/c, stereo, Odometer displays) but the motor doesn't start.
programming the brain from manual to auto seems slightly hard, although I think I got it.
let me know what you think, no error codes or remote start errors.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: August 05, 2011 at 8:11 PM
Does the engine crank? Does the MUX relay click ( energize ) when you try the remote start?
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Soldering is fun!
Posted By: sullivan91
Date Posted: August 05, 2011 at 9:24 PM
I pulled a PCM plug and now the remote start doesnt work at all.
The motor didn't crank before.
Posted By: sullivan91
Date Posted: August 06, 2011 at 2:50 PM
Is this something I also need to do:
https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/diagrams/extrainfo/diagrams/14301_RAM-FULL-SIZE-PICKUP_DODGE%20RAM%20STARTER%20and%20ACCESSORY%202%20DIAGRAM.pdf
I only have 1 relay right now
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: August 06, 2011 at 3:20 PM
Nope. See their note at the bottom of page :
NOTE #1: the STARTER #2 wire and ACCESSORY wire are combined into 1-Wire System, the
Starter #2 will require a (-)Negative thru a 180 Ohm Resistor and an Extra Relay Part
#775 the Accessory will require (-)Negative thru a 610 Ohm Resistor and an extra
Relay Part #775, to connect See DIAGRAM......................if you dont want to build
circuit you may use a INTERFACE BYPASS MODULE Part # DB-ALL or XK09 for REMOTE
STARTING and for the KELYESS ENTRY, when using the Interface Bypass the Resistors
for the IGNITION CIRCUIT and Door Locks is no longer needed, either of these
Modules will work for this vehicle, to order go to the INTERFACE BYPASS MODULE
Page on this website.
The CHALL + CHTH2 Harness is another type of bypass ( like the DB-ALL & XK09 they mentioned )
which performs the functions of the Relay / Resistor setup. Just follow the Type E install
wiring. Notice that the CHALL's WHITE/ Black wire going to Relay Pin 87 is marked MUX and
does what the Relay / Resistor circuit does during remote start. ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: sullivan91
Date Posted: August 06, 2011 at 5:30 PM
Thanks, that confusion in the portion is gone.
Current status of what were dealing with:
* When pressing the remote start button the radio now comes on, and other electronics start, and the FOB displays :12 seconds and stays on 12, doesn't start to count down.
* I can feel the relay click, the trucks starter doesn't make a sound nor does the engine even try to crank.
* Again, no remote start errors are occurring.
Im going to maybe try increasing the cranking time.
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