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My Remote Start Idea

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: September 05, 2025 at 4:16 PM


Topic: My Remote Start Idea

Posted By: Coomer
Subject: My Remote Start Idea
Date Posted: April 28, 2003 at 11:05 PM

Hi,
I was thinking about how I'm gonna go about installing my Autopage RS-650 alarm and remote start in my '94 Celica 5-Speed, and I had an interesting idea.

I was thinking that if I could find some sort of switch or setup a relay that will allow current to pass through it once, and then have the switch reset itself so that it has to be pushed in again, then I could simply setup a switch like that. Then, whenever I left my car in neutral and was planning on remote starting it, I'd have to push the switch in to allow for the clutch bypass to work.

This would be at least somewhat safer than simply trying to remember if I left the car in gear or not and would prevent the car from remote starting unless I planned on it, so I'm wondering if it's a feasible idea. How would I go about getting something like this to work?

Thanks,
Christian Coomer



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Posted By: Coomer
Date Posted: April 29, 2003 at 1:43 PM
Anyone have any ideas on this?

Should I maybe post this in the relays forum, since I have a feeling that a relay is going to be required in order to accomplish what I want to do.




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: May 01, 2003 at 8:12 AM
I would just get a system manufactured for safe manual starts. There's been enough people that have tried using the auto RS system sin a manual and found out that it's not the owner of the vehicle that you have to worry about rather the friend, mechanic, girlfriend, family member or whoever that may use or work on the car that may get hurt.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: Coomer
Date Posted: May 01, 2003 at 8:33 AM
That's why there would be the hidden button/switch that would have to be pressed in for the clutch to be bypassed, which would only allow the remote start to work when someone pressed the button.

I'm aware of all of the implications of installing a remote start unit made for an automatic in a manual transmission car, but I would take precautions and be very careful.

I'm just wondering if what I want to do is possible, and if so, how I could go about doing it.

Thanks!




Posted By: Carsound1
Date Posted: May 01, 2003 at 2:02 PM
From what i can understand the remote start will still engage whether or not you have that switch installed. Remote starts don't care if the clutch is in or not they will still try to start.

If you just get a unit made for the manual trannmissions you have to hook a wire up to the park brake and have the vehicle in neutral before you can even put it in "ready mode".

A company by the name of Auto Start makes a unit for manual tranny vehicles. The process to get it into ready mode is as follows.

1.You come to a complete stop in your vehicle.

2. Put the car in neutral and put the park brake on.

3. Take your foot off the brake pedal.

4. Push the start button on the remote. Park lights will flash a number of times.

5. Turn the key to the off position and take the key out of the ignition. Vehicle stays running.

6. Open the door, get out and push the start button again. The vehicle turns off.

The car is now in ready mode and if you open the door or take the park brake off the car will not start by the remote start.

Thats about the safest way i can see off putting a remote start in a manual tranny vehicle.




Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: May 01, 2003 at 7:55 PM
"Remote starts don't care if the clutch is in or not they will still try to start."

Yes they do....that is why you have to do a clutch bypass on most cars. It usually requires joining 2 wires together at the clutch with a relay. No clutch bypass....car will not crank.




Posted By: Coomer
Date Posted: May 01, 2003 at 9:51 PM
CarSound1, you are probably right that that's the safest way to go about this, but I've already got my Autopage RS-650 on the way to my house. And JWorm is right about his statement.

I know all about the alternatives, I know all about why a remote start made for an auto is dangerous(and sometimes illegal) on a manual, and I just want to figure out if it's possible to do what I want.

I've posted similar questions about how to do this on three other forums(including my own), and have recieved similar responses that don't answer my original question. I'm starting to get really discouraged, and I'm just hoping for one good answer to my original question.

Thanks.





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