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98 pontiac grand prix, viper 5901 wiring

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Topic: 98 pontiac grand prix, viper 5901 wiring

Posted By: bulldawg
Subject: 98 pontiac grand prix, viper 5901 wiring
Date Posted: November 02, 2011 at 10:02 AM

On connecting car wiring to this connector are these to be wired one each to the input and output of the corresponding wire in the ignition harness as in the two starter wires? Thank you.

Heavy gauge remote start, (H3) 10-pin connector
H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT
H3/2 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87
H3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT
H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL)
H3/5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL WIRE)
H3/6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT
H3/7 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT
H3/8 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A key side (if required) of FLEX
RELAY
H3/9 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED (30A) ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT
H3/10 NC (no connection)



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 02, 2011 at 11:45 AM

1998 Pontiac Grand Prix info from DEI.

          Viper                                                                                   Grand Prix                                                  Circuit 

Heavy gauge remote start, (H3) 10-pin connector
H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 IN/OUT                                                Pink @ Ignition Switch Harness                     Ignition 1
H3/2 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED (30A) Flex Relay                             Red @ Ignition Switch Harness                     +12V Constant
H3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT                                   Orange @ Ignition Switch Harness                 Accessory 1
H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE)                         Yellow @ Ignition Switch Harness                  Starter
H3/5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE)                            Yellow @ Ignition Switch Harness            ,,    Starter
H3/6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT                             RED / White @ Ignition Switch Harness      ,     +12V Constant
H3/7 PINK/WHITE (+)  FLEX RELAY OUT                                    White @ Ignition Switch Harness                    Ignition 2  *** Viper set to IGN2
H3/8 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A                           Not Used
H3/9 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED (30A) ACC/STARTER INPUT           Red @ Ignition Switch Harness                     +12V Constant
H3/10 NC (no connection)

There is a Brown Accessory2 wire in the ignition harness.  An extra 30/40A SPDT relay and fuse would be necessary if you want to power
that circuit during remote start.



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Soldering is fun!




Posted By: bulldawg
Date Posted: November 02, 2011 at 12:35 PM
kreg357 wrote:

1998 Pontiac Grand Prix info from DEI.

          Viper        Grand Prix                    Circuit 

Heavy gauge remote start, (H3) 10-pin connector
H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 IN/OUT   Pink @ Ignition Switch Harness      Ignition 1
H3/2 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED (30A) Flex Relay              Red @ Ignition Switch Harness      +12V Constant
H3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT     Orange @ Ignition Switch Harness                 Accessory 1
H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE)          Yellow @ Ignition Switch Harness   Starter
H3/5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE)             Yellow @ Ignition Switch Harness            ,,    Starter
H3/6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT              RED / White @ Ignition Switch Harness      ,     +12V Constant
H3/7 PINK/WHITE (+)  FLEX RELAY OUT      White @ Ignition Switch Harness     Ignition 2  *** Viper set to IGN2
H3/8 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A            Not Used
H3/9 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED (30A) ACC/STARTER INPUT           Red @ Ignition Switch Harness                     +12V Constant
H3/10 NC (no connection)

There is a Brown Accessory2 wire in the ignition harness.  An extra 30/40A SPDT relay and fuse would be necessary if you want to power
that circuit during remote start.



Thanks a lot I will try this.




Posted By: bulldawg
Date Posted: November 02, 2011 at 3:16 PM
The above worked thanks again. I have a new problem. Door locks. They are wired correct I can ground each terminal on the plug for the viper and they lock and unlock, if I plug it into the viper control box they will only lock manual not unlock. They do not work either way when arming or disarming the alarm. Thanks.




Posted By: bulldawg
Date Posted: November 02, 2011 at 3:55 PM
Solved! Plugged into wrong jack,whew been a long day. Thanks so much!

bulldawg wrote:

The above worked thanks again. I have a new problem. Door locks. They are wired correct I can ground each terminal on the plug for the viper and they lock and unlock, if I plug it into the viper control box they will only lock manual not unlock. They do not work either way when arming or disarming the alarm. Thanks.




Posted By: bulldawg
Date Posted: November 03, 2011 at 12:56 PM
Got up this morning car cranks but no start. Neither remotely or with the key. Any ideas? everything worked fine yesterday. double and triple checked my wiring. Can I unplug the viper and jump out the violet and green wires to get the car to start? Or to see if it will without it in the equation? Thanks again.




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 03, 2011 at 8:03 PM

The Viper Violet & Green wires are for starter kill.  If the car cranks with a Viper remote start attempt and with the key, then that isn't the problem.

Start checking all the vehicle fuses with a Meter.  Did you connect the Viper Tach wire to anything?



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Soldering is fun!




Posted By: bulldawg
Date Posted: November 04, 2011 at 8:46 AM
All fuses ok. Tach wire hooked to white tach lead at PCM.




Posted By: bulldawg
Date Posted: November 08, 2011 at 4:54 AM
Fixed! Fuel pump was the starting problem.





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