2011 silverado w/ viper 5701 and db all

Hey Guys,
    I'm a new member to this forum but have been reading it for a while now. I am installing a Viper 5701 remote start/alarm with a DB-ALL bypass on my 2011 Silverado 1500. all went well(doors unlock, lock) until i tried to remote start it. It didnt start, parking lights flashed 7 times. I then went in and programmed the Viper for auto tranny thinking this would fix it, i was wrong.

I double checked all my connections, checked the tranny mode again, the neutral ground and switch, and even tried remote starting with key in ignition. no improvements.

the DBALL has firmware GM6 2.01. it has a RF Loop connected. i installed according to the GM6 install manual.

Im am stumped, Ive been trying to figure it out all day but to no avail. I would really appreciate any ideas!! Thanks

Oh and I wired it D2D

How did you change it to AUTO?  and can you list your wiring from the Viper to the Silverado. And DBALL

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smokeman1 wrote:

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How did you change it to AUTO?  and can you list your wiring from the Viper to the Silverado. And DBALL

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I changed it to auto via the valet switch/remote unlock button. I found the directions for that in the download section.

Wiring
VIPER
+Ign Output to Pink wire, BCM lt green plug pin 14
+Acc Output to Brown wire, BCM lt green plug pin 21
-Park Lts to Lt Blue wire, BCM lt green plug pin 8
Neutral safety input(BLACK/ White) and Black Gnd wired to ground

All to Positive(+)
H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT
H3/6 RED IGNITION 1 +12V INPUT (30A FUSED)
H3/9 RED / BLACK ACCESSORY/STARTER RELAY +12V INPUT (30A FUSED)

DBALL
Lt Green Single Wire CAN to OBDII pin 1(green wire)
Violet/Green spliced together with Violet/Brown (R. Codes)
these go to pink/black(resistor code) BCM lt green plug pin 2
RF Loop wrapped around key cylinder

Are you missing the H3/3 wire to Accessory?

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smokeman1 wrote:

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Are you missing the H3/3 wire to Accessory?

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Nope its there. I mentioned it above, "+Acc output to brown" i guess i should have labeled those better.

Does it try to start? As in, does the starter turn the motor over?

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nope, nothing but and error tone from the 2 way remote and then a little bit later the park lights flash 7 times. THe manual says to try and manually activate the remote start by pulse grounding H1/10. im going to try today.

I tried using the H1/10 wire to activate remote start. same thing happens, error tone and then 7 flashes. I then decided to revert all programable settings back to default, including the Tach setting. I then reprogrammed for the auto tranny since manual is default. After that i tried again to get the unit to "learn" the tach, no success. I start the engine and then hold the valet button, the light should come on after 3secs but there is nothing. I then tried to remote start to see what would happen and then its the same old story...

Do you have either H1/6 or H1/8 connected to a door trigger?  If not, you should be able to connect H1/8 (Green) to a ground.   

Turn the ignition ON, then OFF. 

Press and HOLD the valet button until you hear three chirps from the siren, ( 1 chirp, then 2 chirps, then 3 chirps), then release the button.

Now press it ONE TIME and Release, then press it again and HOLD the button down. You should hear ONE chirp from the siren. You are now in the transmission Mode. Press the lock button. You should hear two chirps from the siren. (automatic Mode)   Press the lock button again, you should hear one chirp from the siren. (manual Mode). Press the lock button again. Two chirps, (automatic Mode).  Release the button wait 30 seconds for the brain to get out of the menus, as noted by a short squeal from the siren. Try to remote start.

If you hear more than two chirps when pressing the lock button, you are in the wrong Menu or Item.  Wait for the brain to back out of the menus as noted by a short squeal from the siren, and try again.

I have just tested this procedure on a bench unit (Python 872, same wiring layout as 5701) and it will work.   

If I had H1/8 disconnected from a ground, it would not work.

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I did connect the green to ground...

I think the problem is that its not staying in Auto mode. every time i retry it there is only one chirp when entering tranny mode, meaning it is still in manual. i have a bitwriter coming on tuesday...

what do you think?

Are you getting two chirps and then waiting for it to exit the programing? Otherwise I'm puzzeled

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sometimes its the simplest of things that casue so much trouble!!

I was not entering menu 3, only menu 2. i would hear a TOTAL of 3 chirps and i thought that was menu three, wrong.

So i got it into auto mode, and made sure i didnt mess anything up in menu 2.

now it attempts to start 3 times, the starter never engages. I did the procedure to find possible faults by the # of flashes on the LED. 9 flashes=low battery(Voltage Mode) ??

dont i want Virtual Tach?

Well after messing around i got it to remote start. Engine Checking mode is OFF. Crank Time is 1.4 seconds.

Should I leave it be? It seems to me that Virtual Tach would be better.

I would think that since you are wired D2D, the DB All is taking care of the Tach. Glad to hear you got it started.

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