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06 ram 2500 viper starter factory alarm

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: 06 ram 2500 viper starter factory alarm

Posted By: travisp32
Subject: 06 ram 2500 viper starter factory alarm
Date Posted: December 18, 2011 at 11:14 PM

Hi, Just thought I would look for some help from an issue I'm having with a viper remote starter that was installed on my truck. My truck is a 2006 Dodge Ram 2500 diesel automatic. I had a 2 compustar starters installed along with a blade bypass. Now they switched it out to a viper starter. What is happening is that about after a week or so the trucks factory key fobs fails to work along with the keyless entry on the starter remotes as well. Then to follow, the trucks factory alarm light will stay on. Then after a day or so of that light being on the truck goes into full factory alarm. The horn goes and lights flash. So, the installers fiqured out that disconnecting the batteries in the truck resets everything. So , I drive for a week and use the starter then the fob quits and then the light comes on in the dash. So, when that happens, i dissconnect the batteries myself and its good again for a week or so. They are completely stumped and are out of ideas after changing out units and brands that all done the same things. So, they are pretty much just going to remove the starter and refund my money. I still would like to have this fiqured out. They talked to the dealers both truck and starter companies and can't seem to fiqure it out. No ones seen this ever happen before. i'm just looking to try and help them out with a few suggestions they may help from anyone. Right know we removed the bypass module just to check the trucks fobs to make sure something didn't happen in the install. So far everything is looking ok. Any advice would really help. I really would like to have the remote starter work and not remove it. I can't have the only truck like this. I hope not anyway. Thanks for any advise someone can give to me to pass on.



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Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: December 20, 2011 at 1:24 PM
what firmware on the bypass module??

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Certified Electronics Technician
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since 1979




Posted By: travisp32
Date Posted: December 20, 2011 at 8:31 PM
its a datalink bypass. He said he believes its ch4 2.81. He put two different ones on it, I was told the older one on it now is 2.61 but I have it diconnected know.




Posted By: masterodisaster
Date Posted: December 23, 2011 at 2:12 AM
I just posted in the Flash Logic forum tonight - I have the EXACT same problem.

Key fobs go out after remote started. They started working again until I remotely started the truck and tried it, then they went out again. The security light is on constant now too. One guy suggested unplugging the "VIM Module" - which I have no idea what or where that is.

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Posted By: travisp32
Date Posted: December 23, 2011 at 6:48 AM
Nothing works on mine. The factory key fob or remote starter fob. The truck freezes up and if I don't disconnect the batteries to reset the alarm light in the dash. the truck will go into full alarm a day or so later. Is it a 06 2500 dodge as well?




Posted By: masterodisaster
Date Posted: December 23, 2011 at 10:40 AM
I have not heard from the customer yet, but yes - sounds like the same issue on the same truck - 06 Ram 2500 diesel.




Posted By: travisp32
Date Posted: December 23, 2011 at 4:48 PM

My installers are stuck. No one in the city I live in heard of such a thing. They talked to the bypass people as well. Let me know if you find any more info, because they are just going to pull it and refund my money.I would rather have it working





Posted By: masterodisaster
Date Posted: December 23, 2011 at 5:38 PM
The Skreem Module must be replaced in the vehicle by the dealer. Electro static discharge locks up the module. It has been fixed in 07 and newer vehicles.

Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep Service bulletin # 08-007-08 (3-4-08)

Good luck!




Posted By: masterodisaster
Date Posted: December 23, 2011 at 9:55 PM
This was the post that was sent to me about this issue:

This is a known OE issue with the Chrysler SKREEM.

Most 07-up Chryslers have had the modules replaced and dont have the issues. Again, this is a known OE issue for these newer Chryslers. There may be a faulty diode at the TIPM that is used to quench potential back EMF. It looks like a fuse. If replacing that doesnt fix the issue, or the diode tests ok then you will likely need to replace the SKREEM."

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Automotive Data Solutions
Technical Support & MECP Master Installation Technician


Just so you have that info.




Posted By: travisp32
Date Posted: December 23, 2011 at 10:26 PM

I've never had any issues with my truck untill they installed the remote starter. Now we disconnected the remote starter and have no issues with the truck, its back to factory and all work proper. So could it still be the SKREEM if I have no problems at all with the remote starter disconnected. Just thought I better clairify. Thanks





Posted By: travisp32
Date Posted: December 23, 2011 at 10:46 PM
Also, could this be caused by a bad install? Like shorting something out to cause a problem?




Posted By: masterodisaster
Date Posted: December 23, 2011 at 11:07 PM
Doubt it.




Posted By: masterodisaster
Date Posted: December 23, 2011 at 11:29 PM
Taken from the bulletin:

"SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
You may experience a no engine crank and/or a no engine start condition. Also,
the remote keyless entry(RKE)system may not operate. This condition may be due to an
electrostatic discharge(ESD)from the ignition key in to the Wireless Control Module
(WCM),causing the WCM to electronically lockup. This condition may occur more
frequently in dry and/or cold weather conditions where a sufficient electrostatic charge is
more easily produced. This condition is corrected by the replacement of the WCM.
Until the WCM is replaced,the WCM may be reset(unlocked)by either: disconnecting and
then reconnect the battery negative cable at the battery, or by removing the IOD fuse(with
the key out of the ignition switch),waiting 30 seconds, and reinstall the IODfuse."

Sounds like they made a screwy electronic part, and aren't willing to do a recall.

Once again - good luck.





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