pairing factory remote with viper 5901
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: pairing factory remote with viper 5901
Posted By: black_bird94
Subject: pairing factory remote with viper 5901
Date Posted: December 24, 2011 at 3:00 PM
Hello everyone, my name is Dom, I have read a lot off the site over time but have never posted. Awesome site.
I have a 2005 Pontiac Montana SV6 with factory keyless entry and remote start. I also have a 2003 Chevy Cavalier (manual locks) with just the alarm function hooked up professionally using the Viper 5901. 5901 will be removed by myself.
Basically I would like to use the 5901 just for the pager alarm system. I don't care to use the 5901's remote to lock and unlock the doors, I would just like it to go off when there is shock or door open. Do you guys think the factory and 5901 systems will conflict each other while keeping the keyless entry and factory remote start?
I'm planning the above install by just copying over how they installed it on my cavalier to my sv6 following wiring diagrams. My professional shop suggested to ditch the factory system and install 5901 alarm and starter for $200.
What do you guys suggest? Thanks for any advice you guys have to offer.
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: December 24, 2011 at 4:25 PM
The shop is right and you are wasting your money using it as simply an alarm.
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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 25, 2011 at 10:38 AM
use the viper alarm and remote start.
if you wanted an alarm only, you should have got an alarm only unit and saved the money.
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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
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Posted By: black_bird94
Date Posted: December 25, 2011 at 6:04 PM
Well, the montana has the factory remote start and factory keyless entry already there. I'm on a tight budget here but I would still like the pager alarm feature from the Viper. Will my plan work? I know I'm not using the Viper 5901 to its full potential but the factory remote start system works fine for me. I have yet to install a security system so I may have the wording wrong, but will wiring the 5901 just to the door triggers interfere with the BCM or mess up my Montana electrically speaking.
Maybe in the future I get the 5901 fully installed at my car audio shop, but for now, I can really use that 200 elsewhere.
Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: December 26, 2011 at 7:33 AM
The problem is that the 5901 needs the Viper remote to arm and disarm. So, at that point, you might as well use it to lock and unlock. Since you are now using it for lock, unlock, arm, and disarm you might as well use it for remote start, too.
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Kevin Pierson
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: December 26, 2011 at 7:53 AM
Also if you intend to have the R/S section done by a local shop in the future, does this imply that YOU can't?
Please don't think that the alarm part is ANY less complicated than the R/S part.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: black_bird94
Date Posted: December 26, 2011 at 11:12 AM
I hear you guys. So I think I should read up on how to do a proper full install myself. I have all the tools and skills to handle the job, I will just need to read up on it. I don't want to have to depend on the local shop if I were to change cars again.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: December 26, 2011 at 11:49 AM
Then post as you go and we will try to help.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: black_bird94
Date Posted: December 26, 2011 at 3:48 PM
cool, I will let you know how it goes. It probably won't be for another month or two
Posted By: black_bird94
Date Posted: December 27, 2011 at 10:52 PM
I have been reading up on bypass modules. I see everyone favors the iDatalink and Fortin Modules.
The iDatalink says their products are exclusively for mobile electronics professionals and require online registration with valid business credentials to access vehicle firmware programming. So I can't get this one..
I read up on the Fortin EVO All GM. There is a great install guide on the website and it handles all the features my Montana has available. It says it will operate the oem remote start in the guide. I like how many different vehicles it works on too. Looks like this module does not require extra hardware or special program software like the iDatalink, correct? Any recommendations where to buy, I will see if Fortin will sell to me directly if possible
Posted By: black_bird94
Date Posted: December 30, 2011 at 5:09 PM
the data link connection on the 5901 viper I guess is not compatible to the evo all data link connection according to their website.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: December 30, 2011 at 5:17 PM
Wrong way round, EVO not compatible with the car read my earlier posts.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: black_bird94
Date Posted: December 31, 2011 at 1:29 AM
which module do you recommend for a 05 Montana SV6? Fortin seems popular, the website said it would work with the make/model
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