python 1401 polarity jumper/fuse
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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: python 1401 polarity jumper/fuse
Posted By: corprin
Subject: python 1401 polarity jumper/fuse
Date Posted: December 29, 2011 at 9:21 PM
Python 1401 w/18 pin harness
'99 Jeep Cherokee Sport, no immobilizer
Been searching high and low for a solution, but the search > me.
Installing the 1401, and when I opened up the brain to set the light flash polarity, I found the 'holes' for the jumper/fuse are not punched out. Is this something I need to do myself, or is this option not available on the 1401?
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Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 29, 2011 at 9:34 PM
can you take a pic and post it?
ive only seen one brain like that when i was at a friends shop installing for the day. it came default for positive, i verified with a dmm.
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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert
Posted By: corprin
Date Posted: December 30, 2011 at 10:35 AM
the fuse was taped into the box, you can see the tape in the pic.
IF it is defaulted to (+) how would one go about changing that to (-)?
Posted By: corprin
Date Posted: December 30, 2011 at 11:00 AM
to verify polarity with a DMM, I am assuming I just set to 12v DC, and watch for a signal when the relay clicks? sorry for the rudimentary question, but while I do understand electronics, the addition of the brain box has me a bit apprehensive.
I was using the Viper 5101 install guide, but found it lacking as I have the new 18-pin plug on my 1401. I downloaded the new 5701 instructions, which has the 18-pin diagram, and matching wire coloring. Can I assume that this is a standardized part, and the wiring diagram is proper for the 1401 as well?
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: December 30, 2011 at 11:06 AM
I believe your light flash terminals are the 3 at the very top of the picture. Those small squares are just used as a reference.
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: corprin
Date Posted: December 30, 2011 at 12:15 PM
offroadzj wrote:
I believe your light flash terminals are the 3 at the very top of the picture. Those small squares are just used as a reference.
Well, now that makes every bit of sense, thank you!
While I am on the subject of wiring. The instructions in the vehicle wiring section here state I must use a relay for my door unlock feature. Am I needing to change the polarity of the signal from a (+) from the brain to a (-) for the vehicle?
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: December 30, 2011 at 12:47 PM
the brain should have a (-) output but it is only a 200ma output which most likely will not be strong enough to trigger your door locks. In which case you will need either 2 relays or a dei 451m door lock relay in order to increase the signal.
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: corprin
Date Posted: December 30, 2011 at 10:54 PM
I have it all hooked up, and programed for automaticia!
The unit is not starting the vehicle, though the lights are flashing, and I can hear the innards of the brain doing their thing.
I wired the heavy harness per the instructions from the 5101, using the vehicle wiring information at https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/alarmdetail/1213.html;
H3/1 - PINK - IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT -> P/Bk
H3/2 - RED / WHITE - (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87 -> Open
H3/3 - ORANGE - ACCESSORY OUTPUT -> Bk/Wh
H3/4 - VIOLET - STARTER OUTPUT -> Yl
H3/5 - RED - (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT -> Bl
H3/6 - PINK/WHITE - IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT 30 -> Open
H3/7 - PINK/BLACK - FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A key side (if required) of FLEX RELAY -> Open
H3/8 - RED / BLACK - (+) FUSED (30A) ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT -> Open
What am I doing wrong here?
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 30, 2011 at 11:04 PM
the flash polarity is the 3 prong above, left is (+) right is (-) use a 10amp mini ATL fuse.
the other black connector is for a CANMAX bypass dockable module.
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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: December 30, 2011 at 11:17 PM
If by open you mean no connection than your problem is with the RED / Black wire. That needs to be connected to a 12v source (can be attached in line with the red wire).
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: corprin
Date Posted: December 31, 2011 at 12:27 AM
offroadzj wrote:
If by open you mean no connection than your problem is with the RED / Black wire. That needs to be connected to a 12v source (can be attached in line with the red wire).
Thank you, I will splice it into a 12v constant tomorrow.
Oh, and I have the lights flashing as designed, I thought the little squares cast into the plastic were supposed to be holes, and the jumper clips were for something else. I guess I am just over thinking this thing 
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