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remote start, 2007 accord

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=130191
Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 1:01 PM


Topic: remote start, 2007 accord

Posted By: captnjake
Subject: remote start, 2007 accord
Date Posted: January 13, 2012 at 1:45 PM

I'm hooking up an avital 4113 to my 2007 honda accord and I see that it has all of these wires for things like door locks and factory alarm arm/disarm. I don't want any of these features, I simply want it to start up and turn off if anyone hits the break before the key is in the ignition. Is it okay just to wire up these things or will I need the other functions as well?



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Posted By: metz35
Date Posted: January 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM
Yeah u can hook up as little as you like. But still have to do factory disarm or the horn will sound when it starts.




Posted By: captnjake
Date Posted: January 13, 2012 at 2:14 PM
Thanks. I see that it puts a low out for the arm and disarm which is the same as my vehicle requires, but it states that you should hook it up through a relay. Is that necessary?




Posted By: sparkyssb
Date Posted: January 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM
You shouldn't need to. Those triggers are negative.

FACTORY ARM WHITE/ red (-)   At driver's door controller   
FACTORY DISARM White (-)   At driver's door controller

This module is part of the switch assembly inside the driver's door. You must run 2 wires through the door jamb boot.





Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: January 13, 2012 at 4:51 PM
No need for relay. Wires are in door or driver boot

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Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
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Posted By: captnjake
Date Posted: January 13, 2012 at 6:23 PM
Thanks for all the help guys, I really appreciate it.




Posted By: captnjake
Date Posted: January 13, 2012 at 10:50 PM
I just finished the installation, but I'm having a bit of a problem. When I press the remote start button, the car will crank for about 6 seconds and try again 2 more times, but will not actually start. The Avital installation manual said I might have a switch-up on my ignition or accessory wires, but I've double checked my connections and know that they are correct. If I leave the key in Accessory before pressing the button it works correctly. Anyone run into this issue in the past?

On a side note, there is one more 10 gauge wire in the ignition harness that is WHITE/ red. According to the wiring diagram on this website, it is a keysense, but it behaves like an accessory wire. Is it possible I need to hook that up?




Posted By: zerepdivad
Date Posted: January 13, 2012 at 10:58 PM
What bypass did you use? I assume you used one....

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Posted By: captnjake
Date Posted: January 13, 2012 at 11:06 PM
xk05 and i programmed it to the pkh3 2.00




Posted By: zerepdivad
Date Posted: January 13, 2012 at 11:08 PM
12volts
      white (50A)
      +
      ignition harness
     
Starter      BLACK/ white      +      ignition harness     
Second Starter      N/A                 
Ignition      BLACK / YELLOW      +      ignition harness     
Second Ignition      N/A                 
Third Ignition      N/A                 
Accessory      BLACK/ red      +      ignition harness     
Second Accessory      WHITE/ red      +      ignition harness

WHITE/ red is second accessory.

Have you verified that ALL of these wires are getting what they should be getting when attempting to remote start?

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A DMM is a beautiful thing.

MECP Advanced Installer Certified.




Posted By: captnjake
Date Posted: January 13, 2012 at 11:21 PM
Okay, I did not hook up the second accessory, I will attempt to do that right now and get back to you.




Posted By: captnjake
Date Posted: January 13, 2012 at 11:23 PM
They are all hooked up properly now. Still no go. Same situation where it cranks, but does not start. Again, if I turn the key to accessory and click the remote, it will start.




Posted By: zerepdivad
Date Posted: January 13, 2012 at 11:39 PM
Sounds like an immobilizer issue then.
Does it still start if you just put the key in the ignition but don't turn it?

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A DMM is a beautiful thing.

MECP Advanced Installer Certified.




Posted By: captnjake
Date Posted: January 13, 2012 at 11:52 PM
Yeah, I'm thinking this is an immobilizer problem because it does the same thing when I disconnect the immobilizer. If the key is in, regardless of whether it is in accessory, it will start the car.

I have re-flashed the immobilizer (xk05 with PKH3 2.00) and it continues to have the same problem.

These are the directions I'm following to program it:

VEHICLE PROGRAMMING
Section C
1)Once module has been properly connected, press and hold programming button.
2)
Turn the ignition key to ON position, LED should blink.
3)
Release programming button, module is now programmed.

It seems to be programming properly.

Just to add, I'm using D2D for most of the wires between the immobilizer and the remote start.




Posted By: captnjake
Date Posted: January 14, 2012 at 1:58 AM
I just realized that I will need 2 keys to program this immobilizer. I won't be able to do that until at least Sunday. I'll post once I try.




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: January 14, 2012 at 10:14 AM
Yet to see a Honda bypass that requires 2keys

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert




Posted By: captnjake
Date Posted: January 25, 2012 at 10:03 PM
So I've just been able to get both keys. Still not working for me.

Can anyone verify if I'm attaching the immobilizer bypass to the correct wires? I have the data wire connected to the RED / Blue wire on pos#2 of the harness connected to the key and I have the ignition source stepping between the yellow/black wire in pos#6 of the harness.

Also, just to verify, to program 2 keys, you just follow the instructions I posted above twice in a row, correct?




Posted By: 91stt
Date Posted: January 25, 2012 at 11:12 PM
check to make sure the ground while running wire on the xk05 is getting ground when the r/s is activated

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This information is provided only as a reference.
All circuits should be verified with a digital multi-meter prior to making any connections.




Posted By: sparkyssb
Date Posted: January 26, 2012 at 10:58 AM
You're probably best off to use W2W rather than D2D between the bypass and the starter unit. It's a few more wires but its more reliable and may fix your issue.





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