2003 yukon remote starter problem

Hi,
I am having some problems with a 2003 GMC Yukon XL.
I have installed an Autopage RS-603 and an Xpresskit DB-ALL module.
The vehicle will attempt so start but shuts down right after cranking. Using the shutdown diagnostic function of the RS-603 it shows 3 slow flashes of the LED. This says it is either a problem with the hood pin switch or the safety shutdown input (brake) or the neutral safety switch.
I have tested these 3 things and they all appear to be working as they should.
The DB-ALL module was flashed for my vehicle and it seems to be working as well. The remote for the remote started locks and unlocks the door so I assume the module is working on the data bus.
I have no idea where to go from here.
I appreciate any and all responses.
Thank you

On a side note.
I have verified that I am getting a good tach signal with a digital meter and the RS-603 seems to have it stored.
Thank you

Do you have the ground while running wire from the remote start connected to the DBALL. Did you program the DBALL to the vehicle per the instructions of the DBALL. the door locks will work even if this has not been done.

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Did you hook up the. 2nd ignition?

Thanks for the fast replies.
I have the grounded while running wire connected as well as the 2nd ignition wire. I bought the DB ALL programmed already.

It is programmed with the software but you need to program it to the vehicle also.

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Is the neutral safety switch wire grounded? Try starting it with the key in the ignition (not turned) and see if it remote starts. Also, did you use the DB-ALL for the tach signal or run a hard line. From my experience, the DB-ALL tach signal is very unreliable and you are better off running a hardline and programming tach.

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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205

I will try programming it to the vehicle and if that sont work I will change the tach wiring around.
Thank you all very much

i thing dball sucks balls, i do my auto page remote starters with voltage sense, make sure you program to either tach,voltage or timer selection on the auto page r/s

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rocker

I tried the programming of the DB ALL.
It appears to be programmed.
Next I will change the tach wire hook up.
Thanks for the help, I appreciate it

3 Flashes on the Autopage is

No RPM or Low Voltage.

Sometimes if the bypass is not programmed properly, it will not allow the remote starter to start the vehicle and sees the shutdown as a lack of tach signal. I had that happen on a Jeep Grand Cherokee with an XK09 that was acting up.

Try to change the remote starter to no engine sensing and see if it starts.

If it does, it's a tach learn issue.

If it doesn't, insert the key into the ignition switch (don't turn it) and try to remote start it. If it starts, it's an issue with the DBALL not being programmed correctly. Maybe not even flashed with the correct firmware.

It is confusing to me.
The flashes are slow like (hard to type this)
flash..........flash.........flash
Not flash flash flash.
It did the rapid flash 3 times then I went through the tach learn process and it went into learning mode. LED flashed and I held the valet switch till the LED went solid.
I also tried the key in the ignition and had no luck

Try changing the programming to no engine sensing to determine if it is a tach issue or not. If not, check all of your shut down inputs (brake, hood pin, and neutral safety)and make sure they are acting as they should and that you are not getting a false shut down input.

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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205

Try also starting with the key and then pressing the remote start button to see if it takes over and then remove the key.

Does it stay running?

Also make sure that you have BOTH ignition wires and BOTH accessory wires connected at the ignition switch. They both require relays (unless the unit you have has a flex relay output).

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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205

I just started the truck and activated the remote starter and the truck stayed running after I shut off the ignition switch.
What do you all think the problem is?
Maybe after 2 weeks I can finally finish this baby up

Do you have both ignition and both accessory wires connected at the ignition switch?

It sounds like the bypass may not be programmed properly... but even then it should still remote start with just the key in the ignition barrel (not turned)

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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205

I just realized this vehicle is based on Passlock II.

The key in the ignition might not work since it's resistor based, not transponder based.

If it's staying on, the tach signal "should" be working. Otherwise, the Autopage unit would not know the vehicle was already running and attempt to start the vehicle again.

It sounds like the DBALL didn't program correctly.

What instructions are you using to program the DBALL?

I am using the instructions from the xpresskit web site.

I have it hooked up W2W. I connect 10 and 12 pin harness. Press and hold the programming button. Then connect the 14 pin harness.Then I watch the LED and it is glowing RED / orange then it turns red. Then I start the truck and the LED turns green. Then the LED turns off. Then turn off the ignition.

I have tried this 3 or 4 times. The LED never seems to go solid orange like the manual says. I have held the button on for different lenghts of time and it seems not too matter.

When I try to remote start the truck the LED on the module has a steady green flash.

That sounds like the db-all is not programming. Check your connections for the db-all and make sure they are 100%

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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205

I will have to check it out. I have programmed or attempted to program it a few times. I will try it again and post back.

One other question I have is how can I verify the proper programming was in the module when I got it? I bought it from a retailer that was supposed to flash it before he sent it to me.

Thanks for all the help

You would have to find someone with an xkloader and have them check it.

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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205

I'm looking at the wiring info of the remote starter and the Yukon.

What connections did you make at the ignition harness?

What wire did you put on Ignition 1, Ign 2, Acc, etc...

shortcircuit161 wrote:

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I'm looking at the wiring info of the remote starter and the Yukon.

What connections did you make at the ignition harness?

What wire did you put on Ignition 1, Ign 2, Acc, etc...

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I cant look at the wiring till this weekend. I know i used the schematic from Bulldog security to identify the wires that I needed to tap into.

With the exception of a 2nd Accessory (brown) which shouldn't prevent remote start, I was just curious if you were possibly missing a connection.

But after I posted, I realized the ignition wires should be connected properly if the remote starter took over from when you started it with the key.

Did you get this issue fixed im having the same problem with an 04 yukon.

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99 GMC Yukon Denali
7in touch screen head unit
9in headrest monitors
15in Kove Armageddon
MTX 1000xd

I haven't been able to work on it for a while due to some odd work hours that have popped up lately.
Sorry for the slow response.
I will post more after I get to work more on the truck.

Thanks rechecked my connects n my lock wire n gwr wire were crossed just swicthed them and work like a charm.

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99 GMC Yukon Denali
7in touch screen head unit
9in headrest monitors
15in Kove Armageddon
MTX 1000xd