siren wiring?
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Topic: siren wiring?
Posted By: jojo88
Subject: siren wiring?
Date Posted: January 25, 2012 at 12:39 PM
I bought a new (in box) no-label siren on CraigsList. The guy didn't know anything about them.
The siren has separate red & black wires and a 3-pin plug (with yellow, blue, green wires). Red & black are power & ground. If I ground the blue the siren sounds good and loud.
Any guesses what the yellow & green wires are for? If I ground them nothing happens. I'm reluctant to put 12v to them without some additional information...
This may have been once sold as a cheap self-contained "alarm system".
Thanks
jj
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Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: January 25, 2012 at 1:05 PM
If I were to take a guess I would say maybe a soft chirp option?
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: jojo88
Date Posted: January 25, 2012 at 1:13 PM
What's "soft chirp"?
Posted By: pts760
Date Posted: January 25, 2012 at 1:23 PM
Does this siren have a built in back-up battery in it. I know some of the DEI Sirens contain a battery. Usually you have a positive siren trigger and a negative siren trigger for more flexibility with your install.
Check this out maybe it will get the wheels turning:
DEI 515R Siren with Back-Up Battery
Do you have a positive siren output from the alarm you are putting in or what are you planning on doing with the siren?
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I drink current, eat ohms, and bleed voltage
Posted By: jojo88
Date Posted: January 25, 2012 at 1:33 PM
The siren has no battery in it.
I am going to use it as a backup siren (inside the passenger compartment).
The alarm has speaker output (the main "siren" is a speaker).
I'll trigger this backup siren via one of the alarm outputs (ie, grounded when triggered).
It would be nice to know if there are any options to the siren.
Thanks,
jj
Posted By: pts760
Date Posted: January 25, 2012 at 1:57 PM
What Alarm are you using?
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I drink current, eat ohms, and bleed voltage
Posted By: jojo88
Date Posted: January 25, 2012 at 2:06 PM
Clifford Intelliguard 770. Not a 2-way system.
Posted By: pts760
Date Posted: January 25, 2012 at 2:32 PM
Is the signal out of the Clifford brain a AC Voltage signal like a audio signal when triggered or is it positive/negative DC voltage trigger like most alarms. The label "speaker output 1 & 2 " in the install manual is throwing me off.
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I drink current, eat ohms, and bleed voltage
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM
Ref:Clifford 770. If two brown wires it's a speaker, if 1 brown it's a siren.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: jojo88
Date Posted: January 25, 2012 at 8:48 PM
Definitely a speaker, not a classic (self-generated wailing) siren. The AC audio signal drives the horn-speaker. (Yeah, I'm used to dc-triggered sirens, myself...)
jj
Posted By: itsyuk
Date Posted: January 25, 2012 at 9:35 PM
ejector seat.... thats my guess.
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yuk
quiet rural missouri, near KC.
If your system moves you physically and not emotionally, you have wasted your money.
Posted By: 91stt
Date Posted: January 25, 2012 at 11:14 PM
how about uploading a picture of the siren and wiring
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This information is provided only as a reference.
All circuits should be verified with a digital multi-meter prior to making any connections.
Posted By: jojo88
Date Posted: January 25, 2012 at 11:25 PM
You can easily imagine the auxiliary siren I bought: black horn with 2 brown wires.
Not much to it...
There's no wiring diagram with the Clifford IG 770 alarm, just a very wordy, rambling description of each wire. (ie, "H2/5 -- BROWN / white brake light output: This wire powers the brake light circuit with the 12 volt circuit only on the H2/10 when activated." Huh? When should I use this wire? Under what circumstances is it powered?) One of the worst manuals I've had to read...
jj
Posted By: jojo88
Date Posted: January 25, 2012 at 11:32 PM
jojo88 wrote:
This wire powers the brake light circuit with the 12 volt circuit only on the H2/10 ..."
And further, harness 2 has only 6 wires!
Posted By: 91stt
Date Posted: January 25, 2012 at 11:55 PM
jojo88 wrote:
You can easily imagine the auxiliary siren I bought: black horn with 2 brown wires.
Not much to it...
There's no wiring diagram with the Clifford IG 770 alarm, just a very wordy, rambling description of each wire. (ie, "H2/5 -- BROWN / white brake light output: This wire powers the brake light circuit with the 12 volt circuit only on the H2/10 when activated." Huh? When should I use this wire? Under what circumstances is it powered?) One of the worst manuals I've had to read...
jj
i mean the one you picked up from CL ------------- This information is provided only as a reference.
All circuits should be verified with a digital multi-meter prior to making any connections.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 26, 2012 at 12:10 AM
That BROWN / white wire is for use with Blakjax or an add on on R/S.
The first poster might well knock Clifford but build wise they are still probably the best on the market.
Poster must also realise that the instructions are meant for experienced installers, not lay people.
Learn to program one of these manually as I have over the last 20 years and once you do program something else, such as current DEI, you will realise just how good Clifford was.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: jojo88
Date Posted: January 26, 2012 at 12:49 AM
91stt] wrote:
mean the one you picked up from CL
Ah. In that case: black horn with 2 unterminated wires (red and black), and one 3-pin connector with green, blue, yellow wires. A photo can't give any more info than this...
jj
Posted By: jojo88
Date Posted: January 26, 2012 at 1:13 PM
howie ll wrote:
Poster must also realise that the instructions are meant for experienced installers, not lay people.
I bow to your greater experience with alarms.
So, what does "H2/5 -- BROWN / white brake light output: This wire powers the brake light circuit with the 12 volt circuit only on the H2/10 when activated" mean?
jj
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 26, 2012 at 2:31 PM
It has two functions, brake light feed for remote start shut down and flashes the brake lights if Blackjax is activated.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 26, 2012 at 2:33 PM
PS and it's other component is a brown red, feed side of brake light on Japanese and American cars, constant 12v+ at 20amps feed for European cars.
Ask away I know all the answers.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: jojo88
Date Posted: January 26, 2012 at 3:44 PM
What's the meaning of life?
...Oh, wait. You didn't mean THOSE questions.
I'll have a few pertinent Q's before I'm done.
Thanks!
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 26, 2012 at 4:20 PM
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
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