2009 toyota corrolla, autopage rs-601
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Topic: 2009 toyota corrolla, autopage rs-601
Posted By: pipes15
Subject: 2009 toyota corrolla, autopage rs-601
Date Posted: February 03, 2012 at 9:24 AM
Hey all, I am about to install a autopage RS-601 remote starter in a 2009 corrolla and am wondering about the 2nd start wire. Does it need to be hooked up? It is very small in gauge. If so do you guys just tap it in with the start 1 wire? also, any tips/heads up on this car would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again in advance.
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PIPES
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Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: February 03, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Yes it needs to be connected and no DO NOT just connect it to the 1st starter wire. They are separated for a reason. Use a standard automotive 30a/40a relay (4 pin or 5 pin, doesn't matter) connected as follows:
Pin 85 ------------------ (-)200ma 2nd starter output from r/s
Pin 86 & 87 ------------- 12v constant fused (20a)
Pin 30 ------------------ Vehicle 2nd starter wire
Pin 87a (if applicable) - no connection
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: pipes15
Date Posted: February 03, 2012 at 11:06 AM
I don't think the RS601 (autopage) has that extra wire option. I cant just take the starter 1 wire as a "trigger" wire for my starter 2 wire relay?
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PIPES
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 03, 2012 at 11:13 AM
Yes you can, wire thus, spur off your status or GWR wire, in line diode, 1N4004, band towards R/S and:-
GWR to 85
12V constant, 20amp fuse to 87
Wire from starter 1 to 86
second starter wire to 30.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: pipes15
Date Posted: February 03, 2012 at 11:55 AM
That's what I thought. Thanks again for your input. Have you personally done one of these cars before? If so, any problems/issues I should look for before I get my hands dirty? I am using a idata AD-AL-CA module.
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PIPES
Posted By: pts760
Date Posted: February 03, 2012 at 3:26 PM
The AD-AL-CA should make the install a breeze. If It was me I would use idatalink's TB module or a key in the box next time. This vehicle is super easy.
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I drink current, eat ohms, and bleed voltage
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: February 03, 2012 at 6:36 PM
use the ads-al-ca. i did this car hardwired when that piece wasnt available on the girlfriends car, it was brutal i tell you.
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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert
Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: February 03, 2012 at 6:50 PM
The Corolla doesn't have any second starter wire....what's all this about?
At the ignition switch, it is true that there are two small black wires that test as starter, but they're both going to the same connector at the ignition switch. Just connect to either of the wires.....they both go to the same place.
TIP: The WORST part of the 2009-up Corolla is its brittle wiring. Get yourself a regular butane cheapo cigarette lighter, and heat each wire up a little before you strip it. Otherwise, they'll break.
I also vote for the ALCA. Not only do you not have to give up a key, and it saves you a few wire connections, but it also keeps the factory keyless operational during remote start.
Posted By: pipes15
Date Posted: February 03, 2012 at 6:55 PM
I'm doing the car right now, and all my paper documents say it has a (white) wire for starter wire 2. It has a little white wire that is in the same harness as the starter wire (thicker gauge) and the little white wire tests as a starter wire. 12votlts in the "crank position"
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PIPES
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: February 03, 2012 at 8:23 PM
It depends on the model. The XRS model US/CAN made had the 2nd starter wire. If I remember correctly the 2nd starter was a smaller gauge. If it tested then its probably it. Where are you getting it from? Is it just in the same harness or is it coming from the same connector as well?
From DEI:
Second Starter white (USA/CAN made) (XRS model only) + ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 1
Notes: On vehicles with Smart Key, it is yellow or black (USA/CAN made) or white (Japan made) at the Body ECU, white 19 pin plug, pin 14 or 4. The Body ECU is attached to the back of the dash fuse box.
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: February 03, 2012 at 8:50 PM
xrs has 2 starters i can verify that.
and chris is correct, there are 2 small gauge starter wires, but they come from the same pin. no need to isolate.
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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert
Posted By: pipes15
Date Posted: February 03, 2012 at 9:47 PM
UPDATE...Well I just finished the car everything worked first try. To end the discustion YES their is a 2nd starter wire. Its a very thin white wire in the IGN harness along with your other main wires. I installed an autopage RS601 with an ADS-AL-CA. Here is an FYI, after install was done the car unlocks with the factory key fob as well as RS remote. I thought that was pretty cool, another reason I love to use idata modules! Thanks everybody for all your helpful input. Hope I can return the favor some day!
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PIPES
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 2:21 AM
Glad someone actually checked to confirm they weren't isolated.
The second starter might be to do with the injection system. (High pressure pump?)
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: pts760
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 3:34 AM
tedmond wrote:
use the ads-al-ca. i did this car hardwired when that piece wasnt available on the girlfriends car, it was brutal i tell you.
------------- I drink current, eat ohms, and bleed voltage
Posted By: pts760
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 3:39 AM
tedmond wrote:
use the ads-al-ca. i did this car hardwired when that piece wasnt available on the girlfriends car, it was brutal i tell you.
Come on man. Hardwire with a key in the box or a immobilizer bypass, this car is like doing a cavalier. ------------- I drink current, eat ohms, and bleed voltage
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 7:31 AM
it was an alarm/start and wiring info was limited, took me some time to figure it out.
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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert
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