cm5000, 2011 nissan xterra
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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: cm5000, 2011 nissan xterra
Posted By: newdriver
Subject: cm5000, 2011 nissan xterra
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 7:01 PM
I am installing a CM5000 in a 2011 Nissan Xterra and i am getting the error-"key on in ignition". I've checked my wiring as well as the 2nd starter connections, and installed relay on the IPDM. The vehicle would not crank thought the module is trying to start it. Any help is appreciated.
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Posted By: metz35
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 7:11 PM
Is error 3 flashes then 1 flash?
If so key on or ignition error is same as not programmed tach
Either program tach or change option 2-10
If it tries to crank you hooked up the relay wrong
Posted By: newdriver
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 7:50 PM
thanks, i just did the reset, programmed for tach, still no crank. anything else i might have missed or the module needs to be updated?
Posted By: metz35
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 7:54 PM
No crank at all? Does it turn on the ignition? What bypass did you use?
Posted By: newdriver
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 8:11 PM
no crank at all. ads-al(dl)-ni2 . wire to wire. module clicking when attempting.
Posted By: newdriver
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 8:12 PM
i can start with the ignition key but not with the remote starter
Posted By: newdriver
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 9:08 PM
when i put the key to ignition and remote start, it will start. does this have to do with the 2nd ignition?
Posted By: newdriver
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 9:10 PM
or 2nd starter ...
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 9:27 PM
is the key just in the ignition (not turned) or is the key turned as well. Did you connect both starter and both accessory wires (only showing 1 ignition wire)? Did you use relays on both wires?
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: newdriver
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 9:47 PM
thanks. the key to the on position and it starts. i connected both the stater and 2nd starter wires and only connected 1 acc wire. do i need to connect the 2nd acc wire?
Posted By: newdriver
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 9:51 PM
the starter has 2 relays- the 1 is for the anti-grind and the other relay is connected to the 2nd starter.
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 10:22 PM
That is what it comes with, but you will also most likely need another for the 2nd accessory. I'm not sure if that would cause your non-start issue, but the heater may not function properly once it is started.
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 10:24 PM
Does it also work if the key is just physically in the ignition (not turned). If not then you are missing either an ignition or an accessory. If it does start with the key just in the ignition (not turned) then it is most likely a bypass issue. My money is that you need to connect the 2nd accessory wire. Pick up a 30a/40a standard automotive relay and connect as follows:
Pin 85 - (-)200ma 2nd accessory output
Pin 86 & 87 - 12v constant fused 20amps
Pin 30 - 2nd accessory wire in vehicle.
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: newdriver
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 10:25 PM
i know that the 2nd acc is for that purpose but i'm trying to figure out the non-start issue. thanks for your help.
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 10:27 PM
It isn't always just for the heater controls. There are some vehicles that require the 2nd accessory wire connected to be able to start. I wouldn't pass up on it just yet. Read my previous post.
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 10:44 PM
all nissans that i have done use 2nd acc for defogger circuit.
its ignition/bypass issues i would say.
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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert
Posted By: newdriver
Date Posted: February 04, 2012 at 11:55 PM
offroadzj wrote:
Does it also work if the key is just physically in the ignition (not turned). If not then you are missing either an ignition or an accessory. If it does start with the key just in the ignition (not turned) then it is most likely a bypass issue. My money is that you need to connect the 2nd accessory wire. Pick up a 30a/40a standard automotive relay and connect as follows:
Pin 85 - (-)200ma 2nd accessory output
Pin 86 & 87 - 12v constant fused 20amps
Pin 30 - 2nd accessory wire in vehicle.
it does not start if the key is just in the ignition. when in "on" position it does. i will try to wire the 2nd acc and see what it does. thanks
Posted By: metz35
Date Posted: February 05, 2012 at 6:57 AM
No need for second acc. On a new Nissan. Did you connect all the heavy gauge wires at the switch or in the kick panel? I'm gonna say you hooked up ign as acc and acc as ignition. It sounds like you have everything else right. Unless the bypass didn't program right.
Posted By: newdriver
Date Posted: February 05, 2012 at 10:21 AM
i did connect and verified (i always use dmm) all connections in the drivers kick panel. tap the 2nd starter wire from the key wires. i will have the bypass checked again, but should i get just a crank if its a bypass issue?
Posted By: metz35
Date Posted: February 05, 2012 at 10:41 AM
It might it might not crank if it's bypass issue. Late model fords won't crank. I'm unsure about Nissan.
If your sure the ignition is right. Then it only leave bypass and the relay at the fuse box.
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