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heated mirrors, 2010 fj cruiser

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=130607
Printed Date: May 04, 2024 at 6:54 AM


Topic: heated mirrors, 2010 fj cruiser

Posted By: gromov
Subject: heated mirrors, 2010 fj cruiser
Date Posted: February 14, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Hi Everibody,

i'm a bit of a retard when it comes to electrical stuff.

I will be installing heated mirrors on my 2010 FJ cruiser. The plan is to hook them up to the rear defog button for simplicity. Assuming that i will find the right wire that goes to rear window defogger and tap into it
1.) will i need to add an inline fuse between the point of tap and the heating pad?
2.) Where do i ground the heat pads?


Thanks!



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Posted By: pts760
Date Posted: February 14, 2012 at 4:13 PM
Use a SPDT 30/40A relay to isolate the circuit at the defrost switch from the heated pads. Use a inline fuse from the power source at the relay to the heated pads (fuse according to the heated pads current consumption).

Trigger must be a timed output otherwise the pads will only engage when the button is depressed.

If negative trigger at switch:
86: 12v (fused)
85: (-) trigger from defrost switch
87: 12v (fused- you can tie 86 & 87 together)
87a: Not Used
30: positive lead at headed pad

If positive trigger at switch:
86: (+) at switch
85: Ground
87: 12v
87a: Not Used
30: positive lead at headed pad

Make sure you ground the pads to bare metal/chassis.

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I drink current, eat ohms, and bleed voltage




Posted By: flobee4
Date Posted: February 14, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Here is the factory wiring diagram, The yellow/purple wire leaving the defogger switch and going to the defogger relay is your low power negative wire. It is located in a blue connector in the drivers kick panel. The output of the relay is YELLOW /GREEN and Positive. It is located running down the drivers side floor harness(under the drivers door sill plate)

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Posted By: gromov
Date Posted: February 14, 2012 at 11:55 PM
wow thanks guys.

pts760 before last night relays looked like nuclear physics to me, but a simple google search proved it otherwise, now its all good and clear and I am of a strong opinion that the relays are the way to go.

However some folks on fjcruiserforums.com wired them directly to the positive trigger without any relays claiming that heat pads do not draw too much current.

flobee4 thanks. Yes I've done some research and found out that YELLOW /GREEN wire needs to be tapped in. Should i try to solder or Posi Tap will do the job?




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: February 15, 2012 at 12:16 AM
solder only

its actually yellow/purple in the driver kick panel (-) 8min latched
blue 18pin plug

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert




Posted By: gromov
Date Posted: February 15, 2012 at 3:39 AM
Since i've opened this topic, i found another write up on heated mirrors on Tacoma and the guy used the OEM Mirror heater button, so i guess I will try to go that way instead of tying mirrors to rear defog.

Here's the link for the writeup. it does seems more complex, but the end result is just so much better. Tacoma Heated Mirrors




Posted By: awdeclipse
Date Posted: February 15, 2012 at 8:41 AM
Nice write up. I would skip all those "quick splice" connectors though. Just solder and heat shrink those connections instead. Especially because all those wires shown that used a "quick splice" were wires added for the project. And while you are soldering those connections, might as well skip the butt-connectors too.




Posted By: gromov
Date Posted: February 15, 2012 at 11:00 AM
yeah, planning on soldering connections instead of t-taps and quick splices.

this brings me to my next dilemma, obviously since the car is outside and i dont have a garage i will need a cordless soldering iron.

should i get Weller butane one or battery powered ones? It seems to me batteries will be dying very soon and with butane one i could also shrink the heatshrinks.




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: February 15, 2012 at 11:17 AM
battery irons are not that great. The butane one works very well, as long as you don't place it on the carpet by accident.

I used to use the weller pyropen/pyropen JR, but changed to a MAC tools one since it was much cheaper to buy. if you don't solder often, get a 20 dollar wired one, and use an extension cord

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert




Posted By: gromov
Date Posted: February 15, 2012 at 1:05 PM
I have this fetish for tools to be honest and try to buy tools whenever I can justify their purchase to wife :D So i'm just putting an order thru for Weller PSI100k and other bits I will need for the install.




Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: February 15, 2012 at 6:01 PM
Check out the power probe stuff I have one its been good for years

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe




Posted By: gromov
Date Posted: March 05, 2012 at 3:02 PM
Hi guys,

Would anybody be able to draw a diagram based on the write up so that I can understand this better. I will try to make my own but i'm afraid I will just murder it lol.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/193528-oem-heated-mirrors-diy-mod.html




Posted By: gromov
Date Posted: March 05, 2012 at 6:06 PM
Wish I could delete my last post... Wiring diagram is there.

Would 18 Ga wires be sufficient or shud I go bigger?




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: March 05, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Most wires are not true gauge as they say. Over size your wire so you have headroom. I would use 20+ gauge to trigger relAys and just incase 16 true spec for power and ground. Realistically those side mirrors most likely won't even draw up to 15 amps

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert




Posted By: gromov
Date Posted: March 08, 2012 at 6:09 PM
Is it ok to ground the heat pad somewhere on the door and not bring the ground inside the cabin?

tedmond wrote:

Most wires are not true gauge as they say. Over size your wire so you have headroom. I would use 20+ gauge to trigger relAys and just incase 16 true spec for power and ground. Realistically those side mirrors most likely won't even draw up to 15 amps


Thanks tedmond, yeah I've got 16Ga for power and ground. 15 amps is way too much, i've seen people have figures from 2-4 amps each mirror. I will install a 10amp fuse and see how it goes.





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