car starter and bypass module?

Hi everyone, I'd like to install a car starter for my 2003 dogde caravan, but I realized that I will also need a bypass module? So i bought a code alarm ca6552 and a fortin evo-all module. This module does everything not jus the bypass.

I have a few questions, maybe someone can help me or give some advice. I've done my research and I found the wiring diagrams for my car and got all the nessessary relays and resistors. I've read the intructions manual for the bypass module, and it is easy enough to understand, but I was stummped with what I have to do with the carstarter/alarm wiring in the car, as I also read the manual?

Both the car starter and my by pass module have wires for door locks, and trunk release. The bypass module shows that I connect the door lock wires to the car starter/alarm wires, so does that mean I install those car starter wires to the vehicle??.

I also have three wires from my car starter/alarm I dont' quite understand where to install these wires?.

INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (-)
EXTERNAT START INPUT (-)
NEUTRAL SAFETY INPUT (-)

Can someone tell me what these wire mean? And where I can find them in my car so i can make all the connections needed.

Thanks for reading my post!
Any help will be greatly apperciated
Thanks again guys

A standard EVO-ALL, as flashed at the factory, comes set for Fortins' DataLink D2D.  The CA6552 appears to only go DBI D2D.  ( I could
be wrong as I am not a CodeAlarm user.  Just going by the install guide. )   Unless you have the Fortin FlashLink programmer, you will have
to connect the EVO-ALL to the CA6552 in the W2W method.

You will have to make all the connections shown in dashed and solid lines between the EVO-ALL and the CA6552.  Notice the Connection 3
diagram on Page 8 of the EVO-ALL install guide.  The 20 Pin connector has markings at each wire indicating the expected polarity and
if the signal is an input to the EVO-ALL or an output leaving the EVO-ALL.  For your 2003 Caravan application the only wires not supported
are the Sliding Door inputs ( as per the chart on Page 4 ).  So to answer one of your questions, the CA6552 door lock outputs would only
be connected to the EVO-ALL.  The EVO-ALL will take that signal and handle the door locks thru a Data connection directly to the Caravan.
Basically, if the EVO-ALL is handling that function, no connection from the CA6552 to the Caravan is needed.

Only one relay and resistor is needed as shown in the Connection 3 diagram.  You will have to program the CA6552 for
IGN2 output wire = Start/Crank to get the (+) Starter2 signal for the relay.

The Parking Lights can be handled by using the CA6552's built in Parking Light relay.  On the 4 Pin Main Harness, connect the WHITE/ Red
wire to chassis ground thru a 2K ohm resistor.  Connect the White wire to the Caravans' WHITE/ Brown Parking Light wire.

The CA6552 will also have to be connected to the Brake(+) wire in the Caravan and the Hood pin will have to be installed and
connected.

The Instant Trigger is used for alarm purposes.  Not needed in your basic install.
The External Start can be used to initiate a remote start.  You will normally do this with your remotes.
The Neutral Safety has to see a ground input to allow  remote start.  If your Caravan has an automatic trans, connect this to the EBrake(-)
wire or chassis ground.

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Thanks kreg for the help.

So I only connect the necessary wire from connection 3 from the fortin instruction.

You said that I only need a relay for the starter. So I dont need any more relys for the trunk release door locks and parking lights?

I've been searching for wire diagrams for my caravan and I read that I need relays for the parking light door lock unlock and trunk release? So the fortin evo-all has built in relays so I dont' need to buy any extra relays and sockets. And the ca6552 has a built in relay for parking lights is this correct because it doesn't mention it in the instructions?

The external start wire where do I connect this wire?

Also the Neutral Safety      I read in the wiring diagrams are: WHITE/ LT GREEN     PIN 9 OF 34 PIN CONNECTOR AT BCM would this be alright to connect instead of the EBrake (-)?

The EVO-ALL does a lot for you, as it should for $70.  While it is possible to do the vehicle with a spare key, a universal bypass,
four relays, three fuse holders and fuses, and 5 assorted resistors, the cost v.s. time difference just doesn't make sense.

As mentioned, instead of the CA6552 directly controlling the door locks and rear hatch release with the required relays and
resistors connected directly to the vehicle, the CA6552 sends its' standard (-) output control signals to the EVO-ALL.  The EVO-ALL
does not have internal relays but converts this signal to "Data" or the proper analog signal and passes it to the vehicle.   Also note
that any (-) signal input to the EVO-ALL on the Purple or PURPLE / White input wires will do two things.  A (-) pulse to the Purple wire
will Lock the vehicle AND arm the Factory Alarm, if present.  If you don't a Caravan equipped with the Factory Alarm, it just locks
the doors.

While I'm not a CodeAlarm trained tech, and the CA6552 install manual does not specifically mention a built in Parking Light relay,
from the wiring description and its' 15A rating, it would appear that the White wire is Pin 30 and the WHITE/ Red wire is Pin 87 on
a SPST relay.

The CA6552 External Start input wire is not used in a typical install.  During normal system operation, you will always use the CA6552
remote FOB's to control the system, including a remote start.  It could be used to test the remote start function during install.  A single
ground pulse will initiate a remote start if the hood is closed and the brake pedal is not depressed.

The CA6552s' Neutral Safety wire should go to a vehicle wire that only shows chassis ground (-) while the vehicle is in Park
( or neutral ).  You can test and verify the BCM wire you mentioned with a DMM and if it acts correctly, it would be ideal as a
Neutral Safety Input.  Most newer vehicles can not start in any gear other than Park or Neutral.  This factory safety would also
apply to a "remote start".  Often times finding this vehicle Neutral Safety wire is difficult so after verifying the built in factory safety,
most installers just connect to the eBrake or chassis ground ( on auto trans vehicles ).  Installing a simple ON/OFF switch into this
wire provides a quick remote start disable that can be used during vehicle maintenance, etc.

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Great so I don't need the extra relay for the door locks. Everything else seems to be straight forward, thanks for clearing things up for me kreg.
As for the parking lights I'm assuming that this will have to be relayed throught the parking light switch for easier access to the wires, I've also read from another post here in this fourm that it is a resistored park light system, the ca6552 doesn't mention much about in its manual and as well as the evo-all manual. So I'm guessing that I have to follow this step....

"This Vehicle Has A Resistored Park Light System.The WHITE/ BROWN Wire Must Be Cut And A relay And Resister Must Be Used. Pin 85 To Ground Pin 86 To The WHITE Wire Of The Alarm.Pin 87A Switch Side Of WHITE/ BROWN Wire,Pin 30 BCM Side Of WHITE/ BROWN Wire. Pin 87 To One Side Of A 5.8k Ohm Resistor,The Other Side Of The Resistor To Ground. There Is A WHT/DK.BRN In The Rear Harness (Driver Kick) That Is A Pos 12v To The Tag Lights.: Door Lock/Unlock Wire Located On The Third Connector Up From The Bottom."

Is this correct can I follow this procedure?? I read it from this forum in a different post!

I also have another diagram that has me stumped it describes....

Parking light wire (white) to resistor 2000 ohm (2k) connects to 87 on the relay,
86 connects to constant 12v (fused at 10amps)
85 connects to parking light output (CA6552 parking light wire)
30 connects to ground

Will this work?

Whats the easiest way of approaching this? I'm confused with the resistors used and different pin of the relays and where they are connected to..

Thank you so much for you time, advice and patience kreg.
I really really appreciate your help!

I want to get everything ready and all setup, as I'd like to install it next week.
Just trying to gather all the information/ advice I need, to tackle this job.

The CA 6552 is a system produced to be generic and flexible enough to integrate into many different vehicles.  Figuring out
exactly how to do that is left to the professional installer.

There is some difference of opinion on the correct way to wire the Parking Light circuit for this vehicle.  The DEI wiring info
has this advice : 

The parking lights are negative trigger thru a 2.1K ohm resistor. There is a rest resistance on the wire, so MUST use a relay
 to isolate away from the switch. See directfax document #1082 for wiring information

Here is a link to Tip 1082 :  https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=616

Bulldog Security does it basically the way I suggested previously (using the CA6552s' internal SPST relay).  Here is a link to their
diagram :  https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/diagrams/extrainfo/diagrams/26500_CARAVAN_CHRYSLER%20PARKING%20LIGHT%20DIAGRAM.pdf
The relay shown can be the CA6552 internal relay with the White wire being Pin 30 and the WHITE/ Red being Pin 87.  ( Pins 85 and
86 are internally controlled by the CA6552.)

Audiovox has the same suggestion as Bulldog Security and lists two possible resistor values, 5.3k and 2.1k ohms.

I have done it both ways ( direct and switch isolation ) on various Chrysler products with no issues.  So the choice is yours.

The easiest way is the one suggested in my earlier post. 
"The Parking Lights can be handled by using the CA6552's built in Parking Light relay.  On the 4 Pin Main Harness, connect the WHITE/ Red
wire to chassis ground thru a 2K ohm resistor.  Connect the White wire to the Caravans' WHITE/ Brown Parking Light wire."

If you like soldering, external relays and want Headlight Switch isolation, set the CA6552 for a (-) Parking Light output and
wire up a relay as per the DEI Tip 1082 diagram.   If you want to use an external relay and follow the Bulldog Security diagram,
thats OK too. 

As you are finding out, there are many ways to achieve the working, finished product.

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Thanks kreg for clearing thing up. I'll give it a shot! I'll post back in a couple of days, on what I have accomplished. And an overview on what I've done aswell. Talk to you soon.

Sorry one more thing.

The extra relays that I have to install was unexpected!

Jus to revirew.
I have 2 relays to install

1st the starter relay.
Kreg is bulldogsecurity diagram also the one I should refer to to install the relay for the starter #2 that includes a 180 ohm resistor?

And 2nd the parking light relays. Door lock are already controled the evo-all so i dont have to worry about those, jus connect the wires.

If I run to any trouble I'm post it here.

I would use the EVO-ALL Connection 3 diagram for the Starter2/MUX relay connections.  You will have to change the programming in the CA6552 to support a Starter2 (+) output.

I think I would try doing the Parking Lights with just the CA6552 (internal relay) Parking Light wires (White & WHITE/ Red) and the 2K ohm resistor as previously mentioned and displayed again below.

"The Parking Lights can be handled by using the CA6552's built in Parking Light relay. On the 4 Pin Main Harness, connect the WHITE/ Red
wire to chassis ground thru a 2K ohm resistor. Connect the White wire to the Caravans' WHITE/ Brown Parking Light wire."

If that does not work, then an external relay wired up in the DEI fashion would be the next logical try.

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Ok so looking at the fortin instalation manual using connection 3 diagram for my caravan. It shows me a 20 pin connector, I'm only supposed to use 9 wires.

-one tach wire, which i connect to my car starter
- Trunk release connects to car starter
-lock wire to car starter
-unlock to car starter
-door status to car starter
J1850 wire connects to vehicle
Analog door lock wire connects to vehicle

Dark Blue wire while runninng......???
What is this wire?, where do I connect this wire on the vehicle?

And also three wires to the ignition connector, It says to connect the start, ignition and start 2 from the car starter with a relay to the ignition connector of the vehicle.

What are thses wires for my ca6552 carstarter?
Is it ignition 1 and Ignition 2 wires? I'm confused here what other wires do i use here?

The EVO-ALL Dark Blue (-) While Running goes to the CA6552 Blue/Black Ingition3(-) wire.

CA6552 6 Pin Start Harness ( heavy gauge)               Caravan
1 PURPLE STARTER OUTPUT - MOTOR SIDE         Yellow @ Vehicle Ignition connector
2 RED BATTERY 12V ( + )           Battery +12V constant
3 ORANGE ACCESSORY 1 ( + )              Not Used
4 PINK/WHITE IGNITION 2 ( + )            Relay shown in Connection 3 diagram   ***Program CA6552 for Starter2 Bank 4, Item 10, Opt 3
5 RED / WHITE BATTERY 12V ( + )                    Battery +12V constant
6 PINK IGNITION 1 ( + )            Pink/White @ Vehicle Ignition connector

The Pink/White wire on the 6 Pin connector is programmable.  Factory default is Ignition2.  You must re-program this wire to Starter2 and
wire it the the relay shown in the EVO-ALL Connection 3 diagram.

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So I dont use the orange wire for the accessory? Can I still hook this wire to the accessory wire in the vehicle so i can get the heater or ac turned on when remote start is activaterd?

To program the pink an white wire it tells me:

Turn ignition ON
Press and hold valet/override button ( located in the atenna) Is this correct?

Then hold for 10 seconds until 3 chirps
Then 6 chirps for bank 4 ( Is this correct?)
Then pressing on the remote the arrow button to slect the feature
The feature 10 ( IGN2 output)....10 chirps.
Then pressing lock button on remote to select crank/start feature...which is 3 LED flashes.
Then turn off ignition.

Are these the correct steps to program the ignition 2 pink and white wire?

Everything else is simple enough to understand.
I'll probaby get this install done this week.
I'll come back to update you!

Can't help you with the CodeAlarm programming.  Hopefully there is another member that is familiar with the sequence.

Bulldog, DEI and Omega do not list an Accessory wire.  If I remember correctly, on the 2003 Caravan, the Heat and A/C will function during remote start without any Accessory connection.

See Accessory  and Note 11 at the bottom of this wire guide info : https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~6929

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Hey kreg, so i am currently connecting the car starter/ alarm and bypass module, I've hit a wall, so i have 2 wires that I still having trouble with,

I have a GREEN/ red wire from the fortin bypass module that is to be connected to the analog door lock wires which is violet/green, i cant seen to find it at the bcm 3rd connector? A reallt tight space to look for wires... Ive looked in the kick panel and i found the color wires, could test it as i disconnected the battery so no power yet...I also cant find the horn wire in the van but i can see it from the steering column connector.

With only 2 wires still not connected ive decided to connect the battery to see if everything else is fine.

When i connected the power the relay to the parking lights keeps clicking, as its power is connected stright to the battery, i think i did this power source of the parking lights worng, where should this be connected if im wrong????
I followed the bulldog security diagram with the resistor connected to the parking light wire

And lastly my car starter /alarm box also keeps clicking like a relay, ive connected both red wires straight to the battery? I know i did something wrong here?

I could finish since it took me all day, I'll start again tomorrow morning?
Thank for all the help you given me...

Here s some info from DEI on the Analog Door Lock wire :
PURPLE / green (-)        conn. 3, pin 21 @ BCM
The BCM (Body Control Module) is in the driver kick panel near the
parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs.

I don't have any pictures of that vehicle.  Last one I did, I used a
spare key, Key-In-Box, and all relays / resistors.  If memory serves me,
you should have received a WireColor.Com Freebe card with your EVO-ALL.
That card will allow you to log on to the WireColor site and get their
complete wiring guide for your Caravan.  It details 28 wires ( some of
which you won't need ) and includes 16 photos to help identify the
listed wires.

The external Parking Light relay clicking and the CA6552 relay clicking
you hear ( probably the CA6552's internal parking light relay previously
mentioned ) could be normal upon power application.  Bulldog RS1100 units
do that, but I am not familiar with your CodeAlarm system.  Perhaps making
up a complete, detailed list of each connector on the CA6552 and EVO-ALL
and where exactly the wire is connected is the best solution.  With that
list we can assist you better.

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So I 'm guessing the car starter has its own relay, so i probaby don't need an external relay connected to it.

You mention before:


"The Parking Lights can be handled by using the CA6552's built in Parking Light relay.  On the 4 Pin Main Harness, connect the WHITE/ Red
wire to chassis ground thru a 2K ohm resistor.  Connect the White wire to the Caravans' WHITE/ Brown Parking Light wire."

I will give this a try first and if i still get clicks then I post back and list all the connections I've made.

Sorry if i didn't make things clear in my previous post!

You can test the Caravan Parking Light wire directly.  After you locate and verify the correct WHITE/ Brown wire, take the 2K ohm resistor a connect one end to ground ( via jumper wire ) and touch the other end to the WHITE/ Brown wire.  The Parking Lights should come on.

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Here are all the connections:

CodeAlarm Car starter.  Evo-All (bypass module)

Blue/black (Ignition 3) (-).......................................................Dark Blue (while running)
RED / white (Trunk release (-)..................................................Yellow/black (trunk release)
PURPLE / white (Tach input)....................................................... Pink (Tachometer)
Green (Door trigger)................................................................Green (Door status)
Green (Lock).........................................................................Purple (Lock/arm)
Blue (Unlock).........................................................................PURPLE / white (unlock/disarm)



Car Starter to Vehicle

Hood pin...connected under hood
BROWN / Red (Brake wire)...connected to WHITE/ Tan at the Brake switch connector under brake pedal.
BLACK/ white (Neutral safety input)...connected to ground
WHITE/ red (Parking light positive)....connected to ground
Black wire (Ground)....connected to ground
White (Parking light negative)...connected to 1.8k resistor...connected to WHITE/ brown wire at the parking light switch connector

Red (battery 12v).....connected direct to battery
RED / White (battery 12v).....connected directly to battery
Pink (Ignition 1).......connected to Pink/White in Vehicle Ignition Connector
Purple (Starter Output).....connected to Yellow in Vehicle Ignition Connector
Pink/White......Connected to Relay Pin 85 & Pin 87 to ground, Pin 30...connected to resistor 180 ohm....connected to PURPLE / Brown (Mux) Vehicle Ignition Connector


Fortin Evo-All to Vehicle immobilizer near key (4 wires)

Yellow..........................pink/white cut wire
WHITE/ red......................pink/white cut wire
WHITE/ green..................pink/white cut wire connector end
Purple / YELLOW................WHITE/ purple

I've did a test run to program the fortin bypass module just like it says in the online manual, but I don't see any power in the bypass because as I turn the ignition key to On/run position no lights turn on or flashes? I dont' understand what I did wrong as I followed everything right to the tee.

And my code alarm keeps clicking with some kind of code error flashes maybe? The parking lights are connected as what you advise me try out, the parking lights flashed with the clicking of the codealarm box!nAnd the horn honks connected straight to GREEN/ purple wire located under the steering. a long tone if I keep the power connector connected to the box!

Can you take a look at what I'm missing or did wrong?

Forgot one wire

Fortin evo all to vehicle

GREEN/ Red (analog door lock).............PURPLE / Green under bcm connector 3

The reason the EVO-ALL isn't working is because the Connection 3 diagram actually doesn't
show all the required connections.  Go to Page 3 in the EVO-ALL install guide and make the
"Without Data-Link" connections with the 4 Pin harness.  That will fix that part of the problem.

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The other issue is the EVO-ALL MUX relay.  As mentioned, you must program the CA6552's
Pink/White Selectable Output wire to Starter2 (+).  Then follow the relay wiring diagram
exactly as shown on the bottom of the Connection 3 guide.  The way you have it wired now,
there is no connection to Pin 86 of the relay.

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The Parking Lights flashing is good news and means that there is a ( parking light ) relay inside the CA6552.  Also means that switch isolation is not necessary and you have the correct resistor value.

The horn honk is good, too.  You got the correct wire.  Does it continue the honk or is it just one long beep that eventually ends?

Once you get the EVO-ALL programmed to the Caravan, the locks should work from the CA6552 remotes.  Sorry, can't help too much with the CA6552 programming and Tach Learn process.

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The honk from the horn is one continuious honk so I disconnected the power. It doesnt stop!

Strange... 

For the horn, the CA6552 6 Pin Output Harness, Pin 1, BROWN / BLACK HORN OUTPUT ( - ), should
go to the Caravan's GREEN/ PURPLE (-)  @ STEERING COLUMN HARNESS.  Not sure why it currently
is a constant output from the CA6552.  You have a siren, so it's OK to leave it disconnected
for now.  Maybe a reset on the CA6552 or after everything is programmed, it will function
properly. ( Not familiar with the CA6552 )

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Hey kreg so I connected the last two wires for the evo-all.
the power 12v wire and the ground wire. I followed the instructions until I got a solid orange light, which it did then turned off the ignition. So now it should ne programmed.

Then I connected all the wires including the power to the car starter/alarm the reason it was click and horning was because it was armed and the alaem was flashing, when I used the remote pressed the lock button. It stopped.

Yehey it worked!

So then I followed the instructions to program the ignition 2 wire, and set it all. I also set the tach reading....done.

After programming....
I pressed the remote start button on the remote and nothing happens.
I have it all setup, and connected.
what did i do wrong?
I know it has to do with the main power wires from the car starter to the ignition harness in the steering colomn. Followed everything you explained to me and

It either those wires or my evo-all is still not yet programmed?

To program the EVO-ALL, follow the Program 2 instructions on Page 12.  There is
a minor variance if the Caravan has a Factory Alarm or not.  Ensure that the LED's
respond exactly as per the guide.  At that point everything should work.  Start by
testing the Lock / Unlock.  Then see if the CA6552 Alarm functions work with the
Door Status inputs from the EVO-ALL. 

For the remote start to work, several things must be done.
1.) The EVO-ALL must be programmed to the vehicle to supply the Tach signal
    and perform the Transponder Bypass function.
2.) The wiring from the CA6552 to the vehicles main ignition harness must be
    correctly in place.  This includes the MUX relay, resistor and the Starter2(+)
    signal from the CA6552.  Please note that there are two different connectors
    at the ignition switch that contain an Ignition signal.  One is used by the
    EVO-ALL and the other is used by the CA6552.
3.) The EVO-ALL must see (-) While Running signal from the CA6552.
4.) The CA6552 must be set for Tach Operation and have the Tach Signal learned
    successfully.

If all of that is done, does the Caravan's instrument panel light up when you try
a remote start?  ( this happens due to the Ignition wire getting power. )  If it
does, and the vehicle does not crank, then the MUX relay or it's connection to the
MUX wire is a good possibility.
If you get no instrument lights, it could be wiring / connections, or the maybe
CA6552.  Again, not familiar with CodeAlarm, but some R/S units will not attempt
a remote start if they haven't been Tach Learned, are in Manual Transmission Mode,
or don't see a Neutral Safety Signal.  Other possibilities are a constant (-) input
on the Hood Status input or a constant (+) input on the Brake Input signal. 

Does the CA6552 have any built in diagnostics that give a pointer to the cause of a
failed remote start?

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Everytime i press the button on the remote nothing happends I'll check everything over again from what I've notice from the ignition harness wires there are two pink and white wire, maybe I tapped the wrong pink and white wire, after that I' ll program the tach signal again...

Also verify that all theCA6552  fuses are good and the CA6552 heavy Pink Ignition wire is going to +12V during a remote start attempt.  As previously mentioned, there are two connectors at the ignition switch.  One is the main ignition connector and the other is the transponder connector, with different wires from the CA6552 and EVO-ALL connected. ( Both have a Pink/White Ignition wire...)

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Today I was trying to figure out if its the relay, the connection to the ignition harness.

Car starter (CS) Vehicle Ignition Connector (VIC)
Start (+) Purple (CS) to yellow (VIC), Ignition(+) Pink (CS) to pink/white (VIC)

Start 2 (+) Pink/white (CS) to pin 85 relay, pin 30 to resistor 180 ohm to PURPLE / brown MUX (VIC)

Just to note in the VIC the pink/white wire are 2 wires in one slot of the VIC.
I connected both of the pink/white wires to the pink wire of the carstarter

Tried the remote start again but nothing! So I tried one wire after another, but still nothing.

My Evo-All is all programed because I can lock and unlock the doors and i see a blue LED flashine everytime I do this, when I have the ignition turned to the ON Position the Evo-All LED turns orange. So I'm sure this is what its supposed to do? Am I wrong?

I thinking it must be the relay and the relay socket, my ca6552 came with its own relay and relay socket which i didn't use. The reason being that the socket has a diode undernearth the relay socket, do you think this might be the problem?

The relay that came with the CA6552 was probably for a Starter Kill/Anti-Grind
circuit or for an additional ignition circuit output.  The diode could cause
problems if it is across Pins 85 to 86.  That would make the relays coil connections
polarity sensitive.  Standard relay convention dictates that Pin 85 is (-) and
Pin 86 is (+). If you wire the relay with the diode with Pin 85 as (+) and
Pin 86 as (-), the diode could be bad now and causing problems. If you notice,
Fortin did not follow that convention with their MUX relay wiring.

The Mux relay should be wired as follows ( according to convention ) :
Relay Pin 86 to CA6552 Pink/White (+) Starter 2 output ( Must program CA6552 )
Relay Pin 85 and Pin 87 to chassis ground
Relay Pin 30 through 180 Ohm resistor and connected to Caravan PURPLE / Brown MUX wire

The only change to the EVO-ALL Connection 3 diagram is swapping Pins 85 & 86 for
standard relay convention wiring.  If the relay had an internal diode across Pins
85 and 86 ( most don't ), then the above wiring would be appropriate.

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From the Evo-All diagram connection 3 picture, pin 85 is connected to start2 wire which is pink/white. Should I try pin 86 instead???? Orb jus follow the evo-all diagram.
I'm still going to double and triple check everything. I might have the pin numbers mixed up.

What is a starter kill relay? Do I need to use this for my alarm??
I'll get back to You and let you know what I found out, or mistakenly done. Thanks again kreg!!!!!

A Starter Kill circuit is an added security feature of an alarm system.  It
will interrupt the vehicles Starter Wire while the system is armed, preventing
the vehicle from starting.

The Anti-Grind is a circuit that will prevent you from engaging the starter
again ( during key-take-over ) while the engine is running under a remote start.
Both are incorporated using a relay and cutting the vehicles starter wire in
the ignition harness.  These are optional circuits.

If you want to try the MUX relay wired for a relay with a coil diode, follow
this set-up.  You can use your DMM to verify that the CA6552 is outputting a
(+) Starter signal on the Pink/White wire during a remote start attempt.
Relay Pin 86 to CA6552 Pink/White (+) Starter 2 output ( Must program CA6552 )
Relay Pin 85 and Pin 87 to chassis ground
Relay Pin 30 through 180 Ohm resistor and connected to Caravan PURPLE / Brown MUX wire

 

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Hey kreg, I' ve read back on your post and you said that ...
"Also verify that all theCA6552  fuses are good and the CA6552 heavy Pink Ignition wire is going to +12V during a remote start attempt"

So do you mean that instead of connecting the ca6552 pink heavy gauge wire to the pink/white wire or the ignition connector, I should just connect it to constant 12v straight to the battery jus like thr red and RED / white wires of the ca6552?

I've checked everything nothing is happening! The parking light dont even go on when I press the button on the remote?

I'm thinking that their is no power for remote start, and you mentioned connect to 12v?

Sorry, poor choice of words / expression on my part.  The CA6552 heavy Pink wire should go from 0V to +12V during a remote start attempt, properly powering the vehicles Ignition wire.. 

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So the pink heavy gauge wires from the ca6552 should be connected to the ignition connector or straight to the battery power source?

I been looking at the Bulldog security setup for the starter 2 wire (PURPLE / brown)

Heres the link it also includes pictures of the wire from the ignition doesn't mention about the pink/white wire in the ignition connector!

https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/diagrams/diagram.asp?ModelID=18135&MakeID=16&link=DW

Do you think I shoud try this setup, dont quite know what the whitw and black wires connect to in this diagram?

Found this in the CA6552 Install guide.  Do the Parking Lights give any flash
pattern after a failed remote start attempt?

If the remote start shuts down or fails to start, the parking lights will flash one of
the patterns below indicating the shutdown input.
To manually enter diagnostics and view the last shutdown, turn the ignition ON
and press and release the button.
LED FLASHES SHUTDOWN ZONE
3 Flashes Hood Input
  Brake Input
  Neutral Safety Input
4 Flashes Remote Start Valet Mode
5 Flashes Manual Transmission Mode not set (manual transmission models only)
7 Flashes Tach not learned / Crank Average not learned

Hopefully a CodaAlarm installer can jump in with some better insights / assistance.

 

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Kreg thank you very much for your help and advice, and guess what I got the car starter to work! WooHoo!!!

Everything was fine when I wired everything up, first thing I did after that was program the tach, then program the pink/white wire to crank/start.

Then you told me about the diagnostic for problems on why its not starting!
So I did and followed the steps. 7 flashes of the parking light,"tach not programmed, so Im guessing since I kept resetting the power and the programming, I'd have to program the tach again, so I did that! Done!

The mistake I made which got me frustrated, which made check again, and double check, triple check, everything was where it was supposed to be. The button presses on the remote, "stupid me". So the manual says press the button 2 times for 2 seconds, so One press per second. So "press" "press". My van started up great!!!!!!

Thanks again kreg, for being their for me when I needed the extra, brain power!

Jus wondering what setting I can program the car starter, like the crank timing and voltage settings? Do you think I need to reprogram this to get the optimal start?

Thank you very much kreg!

Alright!!!  Excellent job!   

Running in Tach Mode will be the best choice for reliable starting.  In Tach Mode, during a remote start, the CA6552 will output +12V on its'
Starter wire until is senses the correct ( previously learned ) Tach RPM level.   If you notice over or under crank, you
could do the Tach Learn process again.  The actual crank time can & will vary with the engine temp and the time of
the year ( think winter ).

The Voltage Level ( Setting 5 ) setting would only apply if the CA6552 was in Tachless Mode.

The Crank Time ( Setting 6 ) setting is for a fixed crank time and would only apply if you were in Tachless or Hybird Mode
and also had Setting 7 set to Preset Time instead of averaging the last 8 key start crank times.

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Here's an update on my install of the code alarm ca6552, so the other day my father was driving the 03 caravan and while driving the the alarm went off! So my dad pulled over and turned the ignition off, pressed unlock on the remote then started thr ignition again and started driving agan.

This is the first time this has acted up like that?
One time just last winter season before christmas season, I remote started the vehicle leaving for work and with the van running when I remote started it,(when I remote start the van it auto unlocks all the doors, and the blue LED light from the antenna still blinking) the alarm went off!! So I was thinking Oh! i have to unarm the vehicle( stop LED blinking from the antenna also) even if the door are unlocked! So the pressed unlock on the remote, unarmed the vehicle, and I was off.

But recently this alarm going off while driving, is really wierd!
So I tried a couple of things used the factory remote to unlock the door when the alarm is still armed, and to my astonishment the alarm did not go off! With the door triggers activated because the door is open!

Will I need to recheck my wires??

Kreg any suggestion to what this may be?
Could it be an loose ground activating or something???

Interesting problem.   The fact that the CA6552 could arm itself while the vehicle is running is very strange.
The first step would be to verify all your connections.   If you soldered them, there should be no issues,
just make sure the insulation is still secure. Re-seat all of the brains connectors and do a Factory Reset on
it, if that is possible.

Unfortunately, I still don't use CodeAlarm systems and don't have any real experience with them. Hopefully
there is a CodeAlarm person that can assist.

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Thanks again for the reply!

So Ive been reading my previous posts and I wrote door trigger input(-) from the remote car starter connected to the door status output (-) to the Fortin.
Could this bee the problem? Nothing is actually connected to the door switches of the door wires? So Im concluding that this might be the issue.
I slodered all my connections and shrink tubed and loomed.
The EvoAll bypass is not connected By data-link....
Most of the bypass wires are for the remote start. And I have no issue with the remote start, only the alarm going off.