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i installed a couple actuators in my tailgate of my 05 Nissan titan so when i install a remote start i will have that option available of being able to remotely open it.

Now the question is i want to be only able to release to gate in park i have the Nissan repair manual and a cant seem to find or understand which wire i can use.

One more Question i would also like to install a mercury switch in the gate as well and i would like to incorporate it with the native "door open" indicator.

if anyone would have any input i would appreciate it

thanks

Diagram "A" shows the tailgate release, note only with engine/ignition on with a switch option.
To do it with the ignition off you will need a separate relay.
Set your remote aux as timed for 1 second longer than it normally takes to open. If you have an existing switch I need to know what type because diagram "A" would need to be modified, is it up/down or just up and how many wires.

Diagram"B" is the answer to your second question.
The diodes are mandatory because the mercury switch will loosen up, swivel and short (door opening).

hatch_release.bmp

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i think i figured it out. i know which wire(102) is hot when ignition is on and in gear and off every other time

Correct me if im wrong. if i take a relay and wire terminal 87 to the hot wire(102), term. 30 and term. 86 to chassis ground and term. 87a to the actuator ground it wont work when in gear.

what do you think?

You're completely wrong of course just follow the first diagram.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

howie ll wrote:

You're completely wrong of course just follow the first diagram.

What?

howie i think your diagram is a bit over kill i found a wire that will do what i need it to do

OK

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

(Howie...) Did I ever post that 2k1Toaster pic?
Though from another forum, it may be apt for your overkill versus the OP's suggested wiring.

That's of course unless the OP re-fuses...

Actually I'm not even bothering and I don't think the toaster analogy will be understood.
And of course in his relay wiring scheme, where does 85 go? Oh just forget it.
Unless of course Peter you'd like to explain where he's gone wrong plus the amount of damage ($$$) he's going to do to to his BM computer.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

In fact I've revised the first diagram. N.B. Both actuator wires are ground at rest, alternates go live depending on which direction, so it doesn't matter which wire is cut, just that the switch side goes to 87a and the motor side to 30. I've shown that side that goes hot, this also gives us remote control via the alarm's aux output. The original poster still hasn't given us switch details.
Z6A_hatch_release.bmp

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

howie ll wrote:

Unless of course Peter you'd like to explain where he's gone wrong plus the amount of damage ($$$) he's going to do to to his BM computer.

Nah. I respect the opinions of others.

Besides, they say nothing's better than learning from one's own mistakes. (IMO - Except when through prevention else through others' mistakes.)

howie ll wrote:

Actually I'm not even bothering and I don't think the toaster analogy will be understood.
And of course in his relay wiring scheme, where does 85 go? Oh just forget it.
Unless of course Peter you'd like to explain where he's gone wrong plus the amount of damage ($$$) he's going to do to to his BM computer.

ok i mixed up 87 for 85, thats why i posted that on this forum, im better at getting laid them electrical diagrams!!!

Howie - I think we've been graped!
I wonder if Howie & I are getting laid more than Big-Zero - that's assuming Nerds are still in. To think of the days when nerds and geeks were a minority - now almost everyone is!

At least Howie & I don't smoke.
If you still want to follow your own suggestion, make sure it's appropriately fused - else evacuate your egg(s) or lay from the vehicle first.

"Graped" what language are you speaking.

Oldspark... The Amount of Nerds around now... are the same % as before. But, i bet that made you feel better? posted_image

Just be happy they were graped... and not Raisined!

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Sorry.
I forgot there is only one of you.

Oy Vey. Well I know someone who's getting graped (hopefully)tomorrow night so you know that if I turn up on the 12Volt around 6:00pm eastern time you'll know it never happened!

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

PS - sorry Tommy - your reply slipped in.

As to nerds.... Am I confused? Is it geeks that have increased, but they are now the norm.
And maybe nurds is the same as nerds - your point being the same number of r-soles...?

posted_image and I thought soldering was fun!

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Soldering is fun!

Ah yes, some of us seem to just keep soldiering on...

Though I rarely get burnt, I still suffer the occasional loss. But being a common target for continuous powered batteries, I expect that. (The last wasn't even steam driven.)

Not that I should makes puns for female canine purposes - that would be too pathetic. But I'll blame an old-age return to childhood for that.

big_0 - FTR, my last dig was not directed at you or this thread.

This thread is IMO ok. It was just your comment that you thought Howie's diagram was "a bit over kill" - I found its simplicity very elegant.

The rest reflects my/our concern that people could cause major damage - especially after vague or wrong wiring descriptions.
And sometimes lines like "i found a wire that will do what i need it to do" seems akin to admitting suicide (despite intentions otherwise).

But since this is not a life threatening situation, from my POV, it's not that important. At worst it will be another case of DIY causing the industry to earn more income.
My humor is IMO an effective way of getting people to reconsider or check their actions.
It's also a way of countering perceived insults.

Best wishes.

ok for the two geniuses. i know my american is different than your "Queens" english but all i wanted to know is;

    when my truck is in drive i know that the wire that i mentioned before is hot and when in park or neutral that wire is dead. So with that knowledge i can hook up a relay to that wire to open when in gear and close when in park. to make the actuators do what i want it to do.

   and when i posted that reply on how to wire up the relay i was looking for some input on weather or not i had it wired correctly. but instead i got a wise ass response because i said that the diagram was over kill.

    i knew what i wanted when i asked. but howie ll (sensitive much?) , apparently doesn't read to well and pay attention to what is written. and then the boyfriend oldspark from down under chimed in to defend him.

you know you two gold "members" your a couple of snobs

The translation is "No - you wired it up wrong."

And in case it's still unclear, AFAIK nothing has changed to indicate that it is correct.

I suspect Howie's diagram is correct. And "safe" wrt not damaging or cross-powering etc.

I'm probably not a snob. If I was, I'd speak the Queen's english as opposed to the King's.
I think you misinterpret some (IMO) light-hearted jesting -cum- "warning" as I tried to explain in my last.
I was in part also responding to your technical snobbery.

But you are free to ignore Howie's circuit and statement(s).
Maybe your wiring will work - we don't have sufficient information (as Howie mentioned).

And don't worry about Howie's hypocrisy. His diagram re-draw despite his earlier "I couldn't be bothered..." is typical and results from other incidents else a return to his usual helpful self.

We'll assume your implementation works unless you reply otherwise.

And big 0 please learn to spell yourself before accusing others, start sentences with capital letters and "apparently doesn't read towell".
I called you out for exactly the reasons stated but you obviously aren't prepared to listen when probably far more experienced people are trying to help.
By the way in my book, big 0 has nothing to do with the late Roy Orbison, more a big zero.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.