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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=131594
Printed Date: December 05, 2021 at 8:34 PM


Topic: security, remote start choices

Posted By: paul h
Subject: security, remote start choices
Date Posted: June 12, 2012 at 8:51 AM

I've been using Autopage alams for quite awhile but in the past couple years I have had a handful of the units go bad, ranging from several models of 2-way and basic units. 

Been thinking of looking at more brands to use & install and wanted some general opinions here from people.  My biggest deals is 2-way...I like the Avital/Python and Vipers but the V turns into more $$...is it worth it??  What about compustar or Code Alarm stuff??  Worth a darn??

Like I said...just trying to get some general feel for whats out there.  I need to find a 2-way unit that is 2-car capable to get mine done first and it will give me something to play with as well.

Also...on these choices, something that plays nice with modules would be great!!

Thanks ya'll




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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: June 12, 2012 at 9:40 AM
You get exactly what you pay for, more range and module reliability = more $.
Most of the Vipers, Pythons and Clifford apart from Clifford G5 product are just badge engineered clones.
Forget Avital and Hornet if you want range and convenience features.
Personally I'd go for Compustar or the A/vox Prestige kit.

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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: June 12, 2012 at 11:12 AM
ive been installing prestige alarms for about 2 years now. havent had many go bad but they have reception and range issues and have problems with interference. the 2-way alarms are ok on their range but the transmitters are slow, meaning when you send a command the car might respond instantly but the keypad itself wont show you that anything happened until later. ive only had to replace one or two of them due to defects, the last one lost an accessory output which cause the remote start to fail. one big downfall to the model i use most is that it is not made to be installed on a manual transmission. no neutral safety wire at all.

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Posted By: cmk0808ny
Date Posted: June 12, 2012 at 3:45 PM
I have switched over to compustar. I used to install dei all the time since I started in 2004, but lately reliability and quality control issues made me switch over. I have installed audiovox, autopage and ultra start and I think the compustar fit the needs of my customers best. They are a little more expensive but they are more of an a la carte deal rather than a preset package.




Posted By: cmk0808ny
Date Posted: June 12, 2012 at 3:47 PM
btw- the range of the compustar is very reliable. I have the 1wg5ss remote on my car and it has the mile range, I have not found a spot where the car has not remote started with in reason.




Posted By: paul h
Date Posted: June 13, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Thanks for the replies.  I've been told by a few others to just stick with the Prestige stuff and stay away from avital...although I like the looks of their remotes better....kina sucks their quality isn't as good.  Code Alarm is out I've also been told....

Thanks again for the posts!!





Posted By: dswift
Date Posted: June 15, 2012 at 5:49 PM
Compustar all the way! You guys use the new DAS sensor yet? Pretty nifty for a fail safe device for a manual transmission vehicle.

It has a built in accelerometer so when and if the car is in gear, as soon as it jumps the starter shuts down. Very cool.

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Posted By: cmk0808ny
Date Posted: June 15, 2012 at 5:56 PM
Compustar is great especially with the blade. I'd keep looking, audiovox as someone said before ha had some range, reception and interference problems. The compustar is very rock solid. Try one out and see for yourself. I used to be a DEI everything guy but the problems DEI is having lately made me switch and there is no looking back!




Posted By: bad_dude
Date Posted: June 16, 2012 at 3:05 AM
cmk0808ny wrote:

Compustar is great especially with the blade. I'd keep looking, audiovox as someone said before ha had some range, reception and interference problems. The compustar is very rock solid. Try one out and see for yourself. I used to be a DEI everything guy but the problems DEI is having lately made me switch and there is no looking back!


What kind of problems? I am considering the Viper 350 Responder or the Avital 5303. But why is Avital bad?

Thanks.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: June 16, 2012 at 3:18 AM
You get what you pay for.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: cmk0808ny
Date Posted: June 16, 2012 at 6:41 AM
Avital on the 4103 and 4113 have had some issues with tach and the antenna. The 5303 is actually the older platform with the extra relay pack. Compustar has the relays built into the unit like autopage and audiovox. Avital 5303 has a lot of redundant wiring that makes it hard to make a nice clean install. Id look for the compustar ft 6000 with the rf 2w9000ss remotes. It has mile range vs. 2000 feet with the avital and makes a nice clean install.




Posted By: cmk0808ny
Date Posted: June 16, 2012 at 6:42 AM
also on the avital they have d2d for their bypass kits. It is not reliable at all. With the audopage and compustar they feature the ads idatalink protocol which is bulletproof.




Posted By: bad_dude
Date Posted: June 16, 2012 at 9:54 AM
howie ll wrote:

You get what you pay for.


The AudioVox Prestige, does it have add on options like the motion sensor, tilt sensor, and battery back up? I don't see the accessories on their site other than the replacement remotes.
Thanks.




Posted By: cmk0808ny
Date Posted: June 16, 2012 at 10:53 AM
Most companies have the add on accessories. Need to talk to company or distributor for more info. Should be able to find them online.




Posted By: bad_dude
Date Posted: June 16, 2012 at 8:18 PM
I have tried the website, nothing there listed. I wonder if I could use the DEI sensors with the Prestige? What about those generic sensors I see on Ebay? How good are those? Has any one used them or have experience with them?

Thanks.




Posted By: bad_dude
Date Posted: June 16, 2012 at 9:52 PM
cmk0808ny wrote:

Avital on the 4103 and 4113 have had some issues with tach and the antenna. The 5303 is actually the older platform with the extra relay pack. Compustar has the relays built into the unit like autopage and audiovox. Avital 5303 has a lot of redundant wiring that makes it hard to make a nice clean install. Id look for the compustar ft 6000 with the rf 2w9000ss remotes. It has mile range vs. 2000 feet with the avital and makes a nice clean install.


What about the Viper Responder 350? I would imagine it's made by DEI too, so same problem?
I have a 1990 Accord so no need for D2D.

Thanks.




Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: June 16, 2012 at 10:23 PM
the add ons for prestige alarms come from an audiovox parts book. they have their own sensors that are ok. you can still use dei sensors but they need to be hardwired which isnt that hard but kind of a pain sometimes.

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Posted By: bad_dude
Date Posted: June 17, 2012 at 12:03 AM
soundnsecurity wrote:

the add ons for prestige alarms come from an audiovox parts book. they have their own sensors that are ok. you can still use dei sensors but they need to be hardwired which isnt that hard but kind of a pain sometimes.


I don't suppose the parts book is available online so I can look at the parts number? Or at least a place where I can look at them online?
Thanks.




Posted By: 91stt
Date Posted: June 17, 2012 at 1:39 AM
I uploaded a copy of the current catalog to the downloads section

Edit: link is not working, I'm going to try to upload it again

Edit 2: For some reason the uploads are not working. Try this link: Accessories Catalog

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Posted By: bad_dude
Date Posted: June 17, 2012 at 5:21 PM
91stt] wrote:

I uploaded a copy of the current catalog to the downloads section

Edit: link is not working, I'm going to try to upload it again

Edit 2: For some reason the uploads are not working. Try this link: Accessories Catalog


Thanks.





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