5901 with comfort closure, acura tl

Hello everyone. I am in need of some serious assistance with hooking up my comfort closure feature for my viper 5901 to a 2007 Acura TL. I have read several different posts and can't figure it out. I have diodes in hand if they are needed. I need to know which wires from the 5901 hook to which wire to the car. Do I hook to the power unlock wire? or the lock motor wire? How do I diode isolate? Are the connection "tap" ins? Or do I actaully have to cut the wire and run the diode inline? I would greatly appreciate any help. I've been fighting this all weekend.

Thanks

howie ll wrote:

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Have you tested that wire to make sure the comfort close programming has been stored, N.B. door must be opened or green door trigger wire grounded whilst programming. 5901s were a bit iffy like that.

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When I metered out the green wire from the 5901 after the lock sequence, it read about 2.2 vdc for 20 seconds and then dropped out. Correct me if Im wrong, but when I meter the door lock wire from the car it seems to send the wire to ground therefore locking the door. Shouldnt the grren from the 5901 also reference to ground as well???

howie ll wrote:

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Yes, diode it 1N4004, band towards 5901. Also the unlock (blue) wire.
The other trick with the door panel off would be to place key in lock and turn till the windows start closing, measure the wires coming off the lock cylinder (3 or 4) and see what happens, e.g. does one go to ground and stay there whilst you're holding the key or latch on to ground after 2-3 seconds?

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The way it works when I use the key is the first turn closes to ground and then the second turn closes to ground and stays latched as long as I have the key lacthed. The reference to ground goes away if i release the key, which in turn only rolls the windows up or down for as long as the key is held. The lock is a 3 wire system.

Let me see if I got this right......

Diode isolate the green lock wire from the 5901 (band faces 5901). Then connect to vehicle behind door panel lock wire (which should be blue\white). Since the comfort closure feature on pulses the green wire when locked, this should be all I need to have the windows roll up after exit and then arm. Correct?

Thanks again to everyone whos willing to help me out. Awesome community!

I'm going to be attempting this today with the info\help i've been provided. I just wanted to check to see if this info pulled from another post sounded familiar or made sense.....

"For the TL you have to connect the lock wire of the  5901(green) to the actualy lock wire of the car and the factory arm wire in the drivers door by diode isolating them.  The factory arm wire will test ground when you put the key in the cylinder and turn it to the lock position.  After you do all that  just turn the feature on in the 5901 and your done.  BTW....the comfort closure wont work with the car on."

Also, for making the connections to the car, am I to "cut" the original wire and remove it from the circuit? Or can it be simply "tapped" into with a wire tap???

Thanks again.

howie ll wrote:

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The second but I didn't notice you write "wire tap" you wrote solder and insulate didn't you.
A wire tap i.e. Scotchlock or IDC will last about 2 weeks in a door especially if it rains.
Vibration and corrosion kills wire taps, we aren't even allowed to use them in the UK.

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LOL! Fair enough, solder and insulate it is. However, i'm close to just throwing in the towel on this one. What i've got is my bue\white wire in the door panel is my arm wire. Now when I plug the red probe into a constant 12v source and the black to this (blue\white) wire and turn and hold the key, I get 12.2 every time as long as the key is held in the unlock position. Now with the green wire from the 5901, with the red probe still on constant 12v and the black probe onto the 5901 (green wire) and arm the system, I get only 9.9vdc for 20 seconds until it drops out. Connecting the green from the 5901 to the blue\white during the comfort close feature will not even make the actuator budge. If I take the blue\wire directly to ground, the actuator locks and if I disrupt it quickly and reapply...the windows go up. My best guess is that during the feature, the 9.9v I receive from the 5901 (green wire) is not sufficient enough to fire the actuator causing the doors to lock and window up. Perhaps i'm wrong, but I am at a loss.

No luck......I can activate the relay with a good constant ground and power supply, so i know it works. However putting a constant +12vdc to one side of the coil and the green from the 5901 and it will not latch the relay. It's hard to believe that the 9.9 vdc i get from the 5901 isn't enough to close the relay. Is there another style of relay with a lower voltage coil???