viper 5704 remote start issue
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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: viper 5704 remote start issue
Posted By: ahaulss
Subject: viper 5704 remote start issue
Date Posted: July 22, 2012 at 10:28 PM
hello im installing the viper 5704 in my 99 ford f-350, but i have a couple issues.... the biggest problem is that the remote start wont function, when triggered the remote indicates that there is an error and the parking lights flash 7 times. "7 flashes- manual transmission mode is enabled and not initialized" however the truck is automatic and i have no idea how to switch it over to automatic mode.. ive tried pressing the control button on the antenna like the manual says but it doesnt swich menus.
Problem #2 is that when i arm the alarm the remote indicates that a door is open and sometimes the alarm goes off? idk why this happens, my only guess is that the alarm thinks the door is open bc the door lights take a couple seconds to turn off after closing the door?
any help would be great thanks! feel free to ask for more info.... ------------- 383 boosted camaro
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 23, 2012 at 2:37 AM
Look in the install guide for programming it explains it.
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Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: July 23, 2012 at 8:40 AM
Programming pretty much any brand of car alarm is often confusing, with an unclear manual, and usually requires some patience and multiple attempts--- just try going through that menu as carefully as possible without skipping over any steps, and it should eventually work.
Also, DEI systems have a stupid (in my opinion) requirement that you open the door before programming. If your door trigger isn't working or is hooked up incorrectly, you'll never get into the menu to change anything else.
Where did you get door trigger, and what wire from the Viper did you connect to it?
Also, if you're using the delayed domelight for the door trigger, there is a menu setting "door error warning off/on" or something like that.... you want to turn that off so the delayed lighting won't incorrectly notify you that there's an open door.
Also, you said the alarm falses sometimes. Next time that happens, you'll want to check which "zone" was triggered. Two ways to do this:
1: (most accurate) Before turning on the ignition, count the flashes on the LED and refer to the owner's manual.
2: (more prone to mistakes, but should still work) When the alarm is going off, look at the 2-way remote and see if it shows a door, or hood, or whatever else.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 23, 2012 at 9:38 AM
X 2 with Chris, especially patience!
Will someone please bring back the original Cliffords?
Never needed to think through their programming, it always worked first time as did their trunk release, instantly not a 1.5 - 3 second delay.
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 23, 2012 at 9:44 AM
With that generation of Ford's it's imperative to take the feeds from the door triggers, NOT the domelight switched lead, on English Focuses (Foci?) of that vintage the dome delay was a minute; plus on this site look for DEI tech. tip 1076 refers to the BCU* going into sleep mode. This will cause the alarm to trigger every 30 minutes or so.
* Body Control Unit A.K.A. Body Control Module or multifunction unit.
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Posted By: ahaulss
Date Posted: July 23, 2012 at 12:35 PM
thanks , i tried reading the manual and i found this "< size=1 face=Futura-Light>< size=1 face=Futura-Light>When using the Bitwriter, it is possible to configure any and all of the programmable functions as well as lock the Remote Control and System Features Learn Routines so that unauthorized users cannot change the configuration or program remote controls to the unit." it this saying that the alarm is LOCKED and wont let me change menus without the BITWRITTER? if so would a local install shop have this? or should i just try to bypass leaving it in the manual mode?
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 23, 2012 at 12:51 PM
If the unit was new it would not have been locked.
Make sure the green (-) door trigger wire is grounded.
You really don't need a Bitwriter.
Reread the first paragraph of Chris's post and apply it
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Posted By: ahaulss
Date Posted: July 23, 2012 at 2:27 PM
Chris, i connected the green door triger and the yellow/black domelight to a BLACK/ blue wire which rests at ground and when a door is open the wire gets power, and remains with power for about 25seconds after the door is closed.
and as for the Manual transmission mode i still havent been able to switch it over to Automatic ..... maybe after the door problem is resolved it will allow me to enter the 3rd menu? ------------- 383 boosted camaro
Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: July 23, 2012 at 2:46 PM
Can you list the steps you are taking to access the menus in the order you are doing them? ------------- When all else fails, Read the Instructions
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Posted By: ahaulss
Date Posted: July 23, 2012 at 3:04 PM
1-turn the key on and off hold down the control button on antenna.... but this does nothing. (this is what manual says to follow)
2- i hold down the function button on remote and after 8sec it allows me but into the 1st menu only, menu 3 is where the Manual transmission mode is located.
here are the remote start wires:
pink-ign 1= power with key on and through crank
RED / white-fused (30A)ign 2/flex relay input 87= power when key on but ground during crank
orange-accessory output=none
violet-starter output= starter side of wire
green-starter input=key side of wire
red-fused (30A) ign 1 input=power with key on but ground during crank
pink/white- ign2/flex relay output=none
pink/blk-flex relay input 87a=none
RED / blk-fused (30a)accessory/starter input= power with key on but ground during crank ------------- 383 boosted camaro
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 23, 2012 at 3:10 PM
Correct but disconnect the green, use the violet (+) door trigger instead you can still connect yellow black but like this:- C8A_ford.bmp
You will need a relay 4 or 5 pin and a 1N4004 diode for the dome light.
Connect the original green to ground only whilst you program the unit. ------------- Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 23, 2012 at 3:16 PM
Smokeman on the British versions if you're using the violet (+) POS trigger you must ground the green during programming otherwise it won't respond.
OP had the green connected when the dome light is POS switched and then the neg output BLACK / YELLOW supervision wire sans relay also connected.
A real case of RTFM or even RTF bylines or signatures of you and I. 
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 23, 2012 at 3:20 PM
OP, RED RED / WHITE and RED / BLACK should ALL be connected to a constant power supply, again, RTFM!
I'd be surprised if you haven't fried the circuit supplying the BLACK / YELLOW dome supervision wire.
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Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: July 23, 2012 at 3:21 PM
Couple of questions
1. Does this unit have a 6 pin main harness or 12 pin?
2. In either case is/are the Red 12 volt constant connected? As well as the Black for chassis Ground? ------------- When all else fails, Read the Instructions
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Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: July 23, 2012 at 3:31 PM
I agree with Howie, looking at your list of wires connected your Red, RED / White, and RED / Black should be on a constant 12 volt source as well as the Red on the main harness. Bulldog list this wire as Yellow(+) or Light GREEN/ Purple(+).
Have you tested these wires with a Digital Multi Meter?
In the downloads section is the install manual for the Viper 5701 which has a section in it on testing the wires you are looking for.
Disregard my question on the main harness Red and Black. I see on your first post that the brain is responding to the remote.
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Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: July 23, 2012 at 4:08 PM
HEY!!
When did I go Silver!!! I just noticed it.
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 23, 2012 at 4:51 PM
Congrats!
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