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Topic: viper 5704 remote start

Posted By: 20silverado06
Subject: viper 5704 remote start
Date Posted: September 01, 2012 at 11:19 PM

I have a 2006 silverado and the viper 5704 with xpresskit Db-All. The alarm work and remote start works but the remote start is throwing transmission codes. I have the wires hooked up like this. Now Chevys has 2 12v constants so I split the 12v constants from remote start like I'm bout to write down

From truck to r/s

12v red----- red, RED / white 12v
12v red----- RED / black 12v
Starter yellow------ violet(car side) and green(key side)
Ignition 1 pink------- pink ignition 1
**Note 1**Ignition 2 white------ ignition 2 Pink/white**Note 1**
Acc 1 orange------- acc1 orange

**Note 1** this wire I don't know if I have it right. It's suppose to have power going to it and don't know if I'm suppose to have a jumper wire for power or if the r/s supplies the power. I have tested it before and it had power but still throwing codes.

Any help appreciated



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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 1:00 AM
There's a brown 2nd ACC that's the root of your problems.

Ign 1
Ign 2
Starter
ACC 1
ACC 2
Power up the RED, RED / WHITE and RED / BLACK
Use the satellite relay orange to feed a relay,see diagram:-

gmc_ign_acc_start.bmp
Lastly NEVER JUMP it will cost you $$$! Always relay.
Vehicle manufacturers have multiple wires for a reason!

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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: x97chevy
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 8:24 AM
Hey I asked a similar question and on page 2 of this link they answered it hope it helps you
https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~130514~PN~1~TPN~2




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 8:30 AM
Don't worry guys, it's a recurring question, I actually made up that diagram as a template!

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: 20silverado06
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 11:32 AM
So everything I have is hooked up right. Why does the brown acc nee to be connected




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Err you answered that in the first line of the original post.

THROWING CODES doh.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 11:42 AM
20silverado06 wrote:

So everything I have is hooked up right. Why does the brown acc nee to be connected


because if you dont hook it up then it throws a code... it feeds some module somewhere in the truck that tells the truck to do something and if it doesnt do that then it thinks there is something wrong.

i think it also powers the AC or the radio circuit.

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Posted By: 20silverado06
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 11:56 AM
Yea sorry for all the questions. I've installed alarms before and they are simple. But the remote start is getting to me




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 12:05 PM
Agreed, no real rules but a few clichés test and verify everything. Breathe slowly and take it easy, problem, post it here or have a cup of tea or coffee well away from the vehicle, don't laugh it works for me.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: 20silverado06
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 12:05 PM
So what about the BLACK/ pink wire that's not being used. It has a relay to it inside the viper




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 12:11 PM
Ignore it.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: 20silverado06
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 12:23 PM
Ok so what I have hooked up now is good. I just need the brown wire hooked up




Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 12:31 PM
yes, brown wire needs to be hooked to an Accessory power source. a good rule with remote starts is that if the wires have power with the key then it should have power with remote start. it might not be necessary to start but it does do something so better hook it up.

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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 12:34 PM
Verify the Vipers Pink/White output wire is connected to the trucks White ignition wire & programmed to IGN2 and that the Viper RED / White wire is getting a good +12V constant input.  The White wire not getting power properly during R/S usually causes the transmission CEL.

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Soldering is fun!




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 12:50 PM
Oh, I thought it was the second ACC not being connected that causes that problem, but what do I know, what's a Silverado?
And Kregg, please don't go there with the UK soccer, it explains my bad mood, great I can now access Sky Sport channels in HD and what do we get? Two draws and a loss...great.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: 20silverado06
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 1:01 PM
I think it's getting power. Every now and then when I take off from a dead stop right before it shifts to 2nd it kinda jumps and then it's good. I know it's not the truck bc it started after r/s installed. The RED / white is powered 12v constant. The brown wire needs to be powered how. I got the relay diagram but I'm not good with relays/diagram




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 1:24 PM
OK, here's a simplified version:-moron.bmp
This wiring has already been explained by Kregg.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 1:28 PM
Sorry that was in a the link to that other thread.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: 20silverado06
Date Posted: September 02, 2012 at 4:23 PM
I will check the ign 2 wire for proper voltage tonight and get back to y'all. But I still need the brown wire hooked up to a relay




Posted By: 20silverado06
Date Posted: September 03, 2012 at 2:46 AM
The ign 2 wire has proper voltage and I have hooked up the brown acc wire to a relay and drove it around bout 20 mins. Transmission was fine the whole time. Don't know if it threw a code or not cause the light was on already bc of my evap vent valve solenoid. Getting it check around noon if local auto store is open. Let y'all know then. Thanks for the help




Posted By: 01ws6/tamu
Date Posted: September 05, 2012 at 6:29 PM
The reason it throws a code when that wire is not hooked up is because it provides 12V to the shift solenoids that are internal to the transmission.

When the autostart fires up and the PCM does not see a 12v backfeed signal on the shift solenoid control wires it sets a myriad of codes for all of the shift solenoids and defaults to 2nd gear as the only forward gear.

All the PCM does is ground each solenoid so if it cannot see 12volts backfeeding it thinks there is a shift solenoid circuit problem then goes into the above fail safe mode to allow the vehicle to be limped to a dealer for service.





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