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Hello im going to be installing this unit in a 04 civic...
I cannot find any installation guide online , I dont have access to it. i would like to know if someone has the install guide because all the alarm came with is a reference guide.
i appreciate any help thank you

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cesara

Go to the downloads section of this site. There is a install manual for the viper 5701. Should be similar to the 5704. The 5704 has a 24 pin harness wich is a combination of three or four connectors from the 5701. The 5701 manual has a section on finding and testing the wires you need. Just have to compare the two and match them up.

Link to Bulldog Security wiring info: https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.asp

Wiring info is a guide only and may not be a match to your car. Use a DMM to test and verify all wires before connection anything.

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ok i will check that..

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cesara

You will also need a bypass of one type or another. And do a search on this site for your civic as ther may be info already posted that may help you.

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yea i pretty much got everything down where everything connects just had a few concerns or questions for some wires. Do you know anything about alarms? maybe you can help me.

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cesara

Do you know anything about alarms smokeman 1?? posted_image

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

hmm i wonder if he left? how about you , do you know anything?

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cesara

How to do an alarm in an 04 Civic, remove the factory alarm, ID the wiring and join to your wiring.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Just about everything there is to know as long as it's a right hand drive.
Very easy car to do.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

my alarm manual says
replace fuse with specified resistor value.
its for the viper 5704.
what kind of resistor do i need?

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cesara

well i have a question for the parking light isolation wire it says to replace fuse with the specified resistor but what resistor do i use for this?

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cesara

A resistor?
Really?
Make your white wire NEG and go to pin 13 blue on the green factory alarm plug above driver kickwell, more or less what I said above.

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i dont have a factory alarm

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cesara

ok so i dont need to connect the white and brown wire isolation wire? its not needed? its or a 04 honda. just wasnt sure if my car had multiplex circuit. so then i just switch the polarity on the alarm to (-) and connect the white wire to my (-) parking lights. and thats it?

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cesara

Yes and let's not waste any more time on silly questions about resistors, only relevant to some manufacturer's NOT Honda locks and lights.
No m/plex on them.
No please stop assuming and be a good lad and have a look for that green plug please.

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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

ok got that question out the way. thank you..

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cesara

Wow! I stepped away for a couple hours. Put the siren where ever you want it. If under the hood, face the horn down so water doesn't get in it. Run the wires back to the brain and connect. You can ground it under the hood and run the red back to the brain. Run the hood pin wire and tach wire out at the same time.

Lock/Unlock, connect the blue and green wires to the proper wires on the car. TEST.

What bypass are you using?

As Howie states, a easy install to do. Easy as a ford focus. badda boom, badda bing....

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I'm using the pkh34 from xpresskits have you installed this alarm yet?

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cesara

what is the year, make and model of your vehicle?
what are you trying to hook up?

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This information is provided only as a reference.
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My car is a 2004 Honda civic dx. im trying to figure out how to hook up the parking light wire that comes out the alarm there is 2 wires one of them says for isolation and the other just says parking light its a viper 5704

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cesara

I have not installed a 5704 specific, it is very similar to the 5701/872/3.3x as far as wiring. just different wiring connectors. have not used any expresskit bypass modules. I have mostly used Fortin modules

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Hmm I see. so question. if ma going to hook up the dome light wire do I need to wire in a relay?

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cesara

The Bulldog site says domelight use door trigger, relay required.

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Hmm I see. so question. if ma going to hook up the dome light wire do I need to wire in a relay?

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cesara

You only need to hook up the H1/5 white wire
no need to use the H1/4 WHITE/ brown parking light isolation wire
the WHITE/ brown is used for example in applications where you need to tap 2 parking light wires

You have 2 location where you can pick up the parking lights (you only need to tap into 1 of them)

Option 1:
RED / yellow (+) in green 12 pin connector on side of fuse box

Option 2:
Blue (-) in steering column harness leading to light switch

Notice that one is positive polarity and the other negative. You can use either with the 5704, just make sure you insert the fuse into the proper polarity select position.

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This information is provided only as a reference.
All circuits should be verified with a digital multi-meter prior to making any connections.

Two options. ( Info from Bulldog Security )

First Option :
Set Viper jumper / fuse to (-)
Connect H1/5 White Parking Light wire to :
PARKING LIGHTS ( - ) BLUE (-) @ HEADLIGHT SWITCH UNDER STEERING COLUMN COVER

Second Option :
Set Viper jumper / fuse to (+)
Connect H1/5 White Parking Light wire to :
PARKING LIGHTS ( + ) RED / BLACK (+) @ BACK OF FUSEBOX, TOP MIDDLE PLUG

In either case, no resistor is needed and the H1/4 WHITE/ Brown isolation wire will not be used.

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Wow thanks this is the best answer I have gotten. you seem to know what your talking about. If you don't mind I have a couple more question id like to ask about this unit that maybe you can help me out with.

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cesara

Again how well do you know your car?
When you shut the doors does the dome light stay on, 30-60 seconds?
Does it turn off immediately you lock the car?
Guess what?
No relay required, because you already have factory dome light supervision.
KISS! You seem to be overcomplicating everything so far.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Sorry im asking to many questions, just that i like to be sure of things before i start anything, and money is not the problem, the reason why i choose to do this is because i love at heart doing things and figuring things out brainstorming everything, finding out why this why that, how things work etc. It at no point frustrates me, i love challenges. Thats why I choose to do this....well im going to post a few more questions that will finalize this project and when im all done im going to write a huge DIY specifically for this alarm and vehicle, thank you for your time...
-Cesar

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cesara

hello i made this to make it easier for the people helping me out. this is the last questions i have before i am done. ok this is for a 2004 honda civic. dx. before i post i have a couple questions
1.Does the viper alarm have a built in kill start in it? Or do I have to add in some relays?
2.If i want my a.c or heater to turn on what wires do i connect together?
3.Should I connect the tach wire? or use virtue Tach? Heard the tach wire is for cars that need longer cranking. (Cold weather/older cars.)
Ok these are all the questions I have thanks. Also let me know if im missing any diodes or relays thanks.
The window module is
https://www.directed.com/guides/manuals/ig/accessories/N530T_1-00.pdf
The bypass module is this
https://www.xpresskit.com/product.aspx?productid=212
And the alarm guide is this
https://pdf.ampire.de/viper/N5704_2011-09b_web.pdf
And here is the questions for the alarm.
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Thank you all for your help.

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cesara

oh and i almost forgot the vehicle wiring diagram is here
https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.asp

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cesara

Yes but you're asking questions which are totally irrelevant to your car.
BTW have you looked for the green plug yet?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Starter kill/anti-grind is built in, H3/4 and H3/5
Connect the red at H1/1 and the red, RED / white and RED / black, H3/2-6-9 to either the white at ignition switch and or thick white feeding the fusebox.
Connect the tach, easy enough lazy and you will get starting problems if you don't.
Door, trunk, and hood will be at the green plug you haven't yet looked for.
Is your car manual or auto? Ground the NSS or connect to the reverse light feed if auto, wire at handbrake switch if manual.
Now here's the clever part.
Pop the instrument panel cowl, two screws and then the instrument panel, 3 or 4 screws.
Look at the space behind that's where your brain goes, secure, stealthed and an easier wiring run, also failing elsewhere you can pick up door trunk and hand brake triggers there, no diodes required.
By the way two other points:-
If you have two ACC wires at the ignition switch just use the pink/ white for the second.
What's a 522t window closer? New to me.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
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THank you very much I believe this is going to help me alot...
Its an automatic so ill just ground that wire off the NSS
Oh about the window module sorry, i meant its a dei 530t...
what about in order for the a/c and heater to turn on with the remote start?

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cesara

Not sure, test.
Turn them on with the engine running, now turn the engine off.
Turn engine on again, did they come on?
If so just set your controls the night before.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
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yea i think im going toset my controls the night before instead. Thanks for your help

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cesara

And don't forget no domelight supervision required and have you found the green plug yet?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Yes I found the green wire . oh ok so I don't have to use the domelight supervision wire coming out the alarm because my car already has built in domelight supervision .

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cesara

The green Alarm plug should be located up to the left of the steering wheel, behind that u-shaped shiny metal bracket. It's usually taped to another harness, maybe with blue tape. It won't be connected to anything. You can break the tape and pull it down. It will have your door triggers(you can use the drivers door pin for your domelight supervision without relay), it has Horn, Trunk Trigger, and Negative parking lights. You should really look for that plug, it will make life easier.

Howie this car has aftermarket Doorlocks, so if he wants domelight supervision he will need to hook it up from the Viper to the car.

OK, good point, excuse my ignorance here, never seen a Civic in the UK without factory locks going back to about 92!

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Ahh ok so I do need to hook up that wire. well also forgot to mention my car has no factory alarm. will that green wire still be in the car?

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cesara

TEST!!! Shut the door, see if the dome light stays on when set to door then does it shut down immediately you lock the car?
If no to the first part and and no to the second then you need it but at this stage how important is dome light supervision?
NOT A GREEN WIRE, a GREEN PLUG.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Wow 41 posts and we didn't even get to the questions of how to interface the 5704 with the aftermarket doorlocks or the 530T Window module to the aftermarket windows...

You are not listening to us. Have you gone out to your car and looked for the Green Alarm plug yet? The dash panel under the steering wheel comes off with almost no effort at all. You keep asking if your particular model Civic would have that plug. Only you can tell us...Go look for it. Do you realize that Dome light supervision is not needed for the alarm and remote starter to function and that is completely optional. You have so many other wires to connect to...Also, the DX is a very base model car, thats why aftermarket locks and windows were added. Is your car a manual transmission too? You haven't even gotten to the questions on you to bypass the clutch safety switch during remote start...

A quick Google Images search for "honda civic green alarm plug" came right up with a picture of the plug. I will post it here. The green plug is where the upper blue arrow is pointing. That is under the dash to the left of the steering wheel. Look for the blue tape like I mentioned earlier.

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