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Topic: add on hood pin switches

Posted By: offroadzj
Subject: add on hood pin switches
Date Posted: October 07, 2012 at 6:03 PM

I'm really starting to get sick and tired of fighting with mounting an aftermarket pin style hood pin. It seems like finding the location, mounting, running wires, adjusting, etc is taking up 1/2 the time of the entire install. So what are all you professional installers using on a daily basis? I was thinking mercury switch but at what hill angle would the switch see an open hood. I don't want my customers coming back because they have a slight angle to their driveway and its not allowing the remote start to work. I also though about possibly a magnetic reed, but I'm not quite sure how it would work with the metal.

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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205



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Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: October 07, 2012 at 6:15 PM
I use the pin but I also use ball bearing type switches. That mount to the hood and adjust them so they trigger when the hood if fully open

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 07, 2012 at 6:17 PM
Kenny, the mods should merge this with the post headed Mercury Switch!
I'm still old school, carefully pick your position, use a Harrison switch, drown everything in moisture retardant, loom up and heatshrink seal over the (fully insulated) faston (i.e. 1/4"-6mm "Lucar" as we call 'em).
Guaranteed about 5 years that way.
9 out of 10 times it's the hood shut line, next to a rubber buffer, gives you your length.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 07, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Another 2 cents...

The standard hood pin switches are a pain.  Some customers don't want a hole drilled under the hood due
to rust, etc.  Taking the time to fabricate a stainless steel bracket, installed in a "high & dry" area,
is time consuming. 

Mercury tilt switches ( and the ball bearing equivalents ) are a better choice but have a few draw-backs
of their own.  They could be a problem on steep hills and for an alarm system, don't trigger as soon as
the hood starts to raise. 

I checked on magnetic reed switches some time ago and while they solve most of the problems listed have
two draw backs.  One is most of the magnetic reed switches are the N.C. type, so investigate thoroughly. 
On the newer aftermarket systems that can be programmed for N.C. switches, this isn't a big deal anymore. 
The other factor is cost.  Adding an extra ~$9 to each install does cut down on your profit margin but
return customers and good word of mouth could easily negate the extra expense.



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Soldering is fun!




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 07, 2012 at 6:38 PM
By the way that photo on the other post looks like someone's Lexus!
I keep seeing the damn things everywhere!

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 07, 2012 at 6:54 PM

Same color but actually a 2010 Dodge Caravan I did a few fews ago.   I'm making my own tilt switches now, about 55 cents each.

Re- the SC430 : There is money to be made on them.  Easy install and a lot of "got to have it" bling factor for the customers.



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Soldering is fun!




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 07, 2012 at 7:01 PM
Still too expensive over here, also no disrespect to "er inside" (with a cookney accent) but most of the owners here are 55+ posted_image
If you look on the Metra website, switches the four I use are all there and they show tilt and magnetic.
They made 200 of my car some with an MG badge using the 4.6 V8 from the Mustang, nice till I saw the price, apparently a collectors car.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: October 07, 2012 at 8:29 PM
I might pick up a bunch of the pin switches with the 'flange' once my account with Metra gets set up. Then I have a few more options for the pin.

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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 08, 2012 at 1:25 AM
Yes, Metra shows a photo of 5, DEI (Europe) supply the second left for Clifford with the rubber boot and without for Viper (says it all) plus the two far right.
I need the far left for the occasional vehicle.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 08, 2012 at 1:27 AM
And the one to avoid is the DEI 507 series of tilt switches, more falsies than American Pie.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: October 08, 2012 at 5:00 AM
Since the picture is generic for all of the pin switches, do you know which part number is the one for Clifford? That's the one I'd like to go with once I get the account setup.

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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 08, 2012 at 6:35 AM
Flange mount universal pin switch with rubber boot, page 29 FMPSR.
The strange thing is that I looked at a photo from Google which also showed the same, far left with side mounts, quite useful.
About 30 years ago a British company had a similar but plastic switch, no adjustment required you simply closed the door or hood or whatever and the rod length adjusted automatically.


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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: October 08, 2012 at 9:01 AM
Yea, I was debating either going with the straight shot flange mount or the side mount. I might pick up some of both for a little versatility and option depending on the vehicle.

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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205




Posted By: juan maza
Date Posted: October 14, 2012 at 2:58 AM

howie ll wrote:

And the one to avoid is the DEI 507 series of tilt switches, more falsies than American Pie.

With this you mean the 507M? I am in the process of updating my alarm and adding the tilt sensor.





Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 14, 2012 at 3:55 AM
Juan please try it and prove me wrong, in my experience more false alarms attributed to it than all the other sensor falsies put together.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.





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