avital 4103 problem
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: avital 4103 problem
Posted By: jmv5171195
Subject: avital 4103 problem
Date Posted: October 09, 2012 at 5:37 PM
Installed and tested, every thing operates flawlessly except for the trunk release. I am currently not even getting a signal from the pin on the brain when the trunk release button is pushed. Is it possible one of my onboard relays is faulty, as I also hear no click when I activate the trunk release?
Replies:
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: October 09, 2012 at 6:06 PM
The button pn the remote needs to be held for a few seconds.
------------- Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: jmv5171195
Date Posted: October 09, 2012 at 6:33 PM
Define a few seconds, as I've been holding the button up to 5 seconds and still have no response.
Posted By: dasbogie
Date Posted: October 09, 2012 at 7:01 PM
have you tried pressing unlock on the avital remote and then activate the trunk release?
------------- Advanced
Posted By: jmv5171195
Date Posted: October 09, 2012 at 7:04 PM
I have yet to try that but I'm pretty sure that I shouldn't have to do that. Is there an inboard relay for the trunk release?
Posted By: dasbogie
Date Posted: October 09, 2012 at 7:48 PM
what i'm getting at is some of those units have to be unlocked to activate the trunk command. if we press lock on the avital remote, the avital locks the vehicle doors. if we do not use the remote to unlock the vehicle doors, the brain is still locked or in an armed state. So I was just making sure the unit is unlocked first, then try the trunk command. What year, make and model is this installed in?
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Posted By: jmv5171195
Date Posted: October 09, 2012 at 8:06 PM
Application vehicle is a 1994 Chevrolet S10 Blazer 4dr. The vehicle has no factory alarm or immobilizer.Also whenever I have tested to wire I've opened it with the remote, therefore the brain should be "unlocked/unarmed"
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: October 09, 2012 at 8:22 PM
Do the parking lights flash or anything making it seem like a command was received? Also, how did you connect the trunk release?
------------- Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: jmv5171195
Date Posted: October 09, 2012 at 8:34 PM
No conformation flashes whatsoever. I disconnected the trigger from the relay I had also installed to change polarities, I've been using a test lamp to test the trigger. I've also tried both remotes, same outcome.
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: October 09, 2012 at 8:50 PM
Did you at any time connect the output directly to the trunk release wire in the vehicle (without the relay)?
------------- Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: jmv5171195
Date Posted: October 09, 2012 at 9:08 PM
No I did not. Trigger is -200mA and the trunk release is +.
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: October 09, 2012 at 9:16 PM
Just making sure. I made that mistake once (didn't read the diagram closely and didn't test first either  And it ended up frying the output of the module. Either way, if everything else is working, you know that the antenna is good and if you are getting nothing out of the output, I would have to say the output is dead. I don't know of any programming that would turn the output off... ------------- Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: jmv5171195
Date Posted: October 09, 2012 at 9:25 PM
That's what I was fearing. I might open the brain up and see if I can find any burnt up connections, have my neighbor fix it at his cb radio repair shop.
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: October 09, 2012 at 9:28 PM
Just as a possibility, where did you ground the system? And you do have the ignition wires connected correctly right?
------------- Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: jmv5171195
Date Posted: October 09, 2012 at 9:33 PM
Grounded the system on the kickpanel and hooked up the 2 red, orange,purple,and yellow wire. I did not install the pink/white wire as I was told there was no need.
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: October 10, 2012 at 5:55 AM
I am going to assume that by 'on the kickpanel' you mean the metal behind the kick panel... lol. From what I can tell, you seem to have everything correct... so I'd have to say its a bad module. Did you buy it new or used?
------------- Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: October 10, 2012 at 7:57 AM
Just a thought it shouldn't have anything to do with your issue but what yellow wire did you connect ? Also I didn't see the main pink ingition wire listed in your connections
------------- If i Can't Install it I Don't need it Joe
Posted By: jmv5171195
Date Posted: October 10, 2012 at 1:37 PM
I made a mistake typing. I said yellow when it should have been pink. Oopps. None the less all ignition connections from the box were made, except the pink/white. Yeah it's the panel itself not te covet the ground is connected to lol. Was bought new at a mustang tuning shop (go figure!)
Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: October 11, 2012 at 4:59 PM
How exactly are you testing the Output from the 4103...? Is your test light the style that plugs into the Cig Plug or the Tester with just a clip on the end? Though it is possible th unit has a bad output, i have not seen one of those units with a Bad Trunk Output, out-of-the-box. By no means does that not mean yours is bad... When you apply 12volts to the Trunk/Glass release, does it open?
------------- M.E.C.P & First-Class
Go slow and drink lots of water...Procrastinators' Unite...Tomorrow!
Posted By: jmv5171195
Date Posted: October 11, 2012 at 5:09 PM
My test lamp consists of two alligator clip leads and a dash light bulb. Positive connected to a battery terminal on the fuse box and negative lead connected to the output wire. I have tested this method on the ground when locked output and it indeed does work. Trunk switch is still fully operational.
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